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Topic: Anyone else laughing at the $30 price tag of Ajani?
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Troll_Ascetic
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posted July 07, 2012 04:33 PM
        
We all know, having been through this a million times, that card values go down a bit after release most of the time on the BIG cards people expect to be great. Someone is trying to sell Ajani for $35 right now, which Is comical IMO, because I can see him going down to $20-$25 in the next couple months. Are any of you willing to pay that kind of a price tag? I am just curious if I am the only one who finds this to be hysterical.Have a great day everyone!
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airwalk
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posted July 07, 2012 04:45 PM
People were pre-ordering Karn at $50. This doesn't shock or surprise me at all, we see this EVERYtime a new planeswalker comes out.
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Troll_Ascetic
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posted July 07, 2012 04:49 PM
I am not shocked......just laughing hysterically at anyone who pays that price 
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airwalk
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posted July 07, 2012 04:53 PM
People that can afford to pay the highest price for cards when they are released are probably in a good enough financial position that $35 for a card is nothing to them...
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Troll_Ascetic
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posted July 07, 2012 04:59 PM
I am in a good financial situation and I still think it is funny. I am just curious if anyone else laughs when they see this stuff over and over
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isetfire
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posted July 07, 2012 05:59 PM
I laugh at the insane prices of every new standard card cuz 99% drop.
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sigfig8
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posted July 07, 2012 06:34 PM
But what if this Ajani is the next Jace, and hits 100$???? OMG you can't miss it!!!!</sarcasm>
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Zeckk
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posted July 07, 2012 08:03 PM
I had honestly thought Tibalt was going to to be the walker that was so unarguably unplayable enough to shake some people away from the notion that planeswalkers are inherently powerful. The demand issue isn't really up for debate - they post pre-sale prices at what they think people will pay for them, and people inevitably DO pay those prices. Ajani isn't even the worst case example - Both Liliana of the Veil and Sorin, LoI both reached prices that were 3x the current price.
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CoupDeGrace
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posted July 07, 2012 10:11 PM
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Originally posted by isetfire:
I laugh at the insane prices of every new standard card cuz 99% drop.
+1 ... This was happened for cards like Time Reversal, Koth, Karn and so on... For that new ajani, it will definitely drop.. Such as awful card overall.
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MagixDK
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posted July 08, 2012 12:13 AM
i happily paid 40$ a piece for 2 karns, right when they came out.i wanted to play them in a legacy deck, and was just happy to have them 2 days later for an event. was fun to play with the new bomb, and im not particularly rich. I knew the card would drop, but I was plenty entertained for my money.
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WeedIan
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posted July 08, 2012 02:31 AM
This is why mythics are bad for the game. If there were not mythics what would the planeswalkers be $10-15 to start instead of 25-50?
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Zeckk
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posted July 08, 2012 02:50 AM
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Originally posted by WeedIan:
This is why mythics are bad for the game. If there were not mythics what would the planeswalkers be $10-15 to start instead of 25-50?
Not to resurrect a dead horse, but the mythics-are-bad argument has some pretty strong refutations, namely the fact that magic is as popular as it's ever been, and pack sales in particular jumped in correlation with the introduction of mythic rares. I'll be the first to agree that the execution of mythic rares leave something to be desired, but by and large they are a positive for the game.
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oneofchaos
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posted July 08, 2012 03:08 AM
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Originally posted by Zeckk:
Not to resurrect a dead horse, but the mythics-are-bad argument has some pretty strong refutations, namely the fact that magic is as popular as it's ever been, and pack sales in particular jumped in correlation with the introduction of mythic rares.I'll be the first to agree that the execution of mythic rares leave something to be desired, but by and large they are a positive for the game.
The mythic are bad thing- I enjoyed drafting pre-mythic as opposed to post mythic. Maybe even pre-planeswalker, although the first batch were pretty fair before wizards decided they needed to rule standard. I suppose mythics are not necessarily a bad thing since wizards stated they wanted iconic legends to be mainly mythic. But...lotus cobra? Seriously? How is a snake that makes mana mythic? I wouldn't necessarily attribute mythics in developing a playerbase, the playerbase had been growing for years.
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CubFan81
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posted July 08, 2012 07:02 AM
Not meant as a dig but does anyone else find it funny that there's a thread like this every time a new set comes out?ZOMG, looks at those noobs buying (Ajani, Tamiyo, Liliana, etc) for crazy prices. Don't they now it's going to come down. Yes, we all know that they're going to come down in price. The price is because of availability. If I want to play with 3 or 4 Ajani at the SCG in St. Louis next weekend I need them now. I need to buy it today to have it shipped out to me before I leave for the tournament. Or else I'm stuck paying onsite for them (at likely more than $35) or not playing what I want. If I want to play them in a PTQ in August then I can probably afford to wait. Bully for the guy who cracked one at his pre-release/prize pool. He can take advantage of his good fortune. On the note of mythics, I'm split on their impact. I think the goal of reducing the price of rares is well intended. I just don't think it has worked out the way that they thought it would. Lowering the prices of set rares is good but it in essence devalues most trade stock in terms of your trading power. Trade sharks aside, how many LGS traders are going to have the stock to trade for a Bonfire or a Geist of Saint Traft? Rare exceptions like Cavern, Snapcaster, and Restoration Angel aside, if I want Bonfires for my deck my options are generally to crack one or buy one from someone who did. Before Mythics, the rares (Bitterblossom, Chameleon Colossus, Mutavault) were all in the same $20 range and if I changed my mind and wanted to turn Faeries into Elves for a while I could trade rare for rare pretty easily.
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Troll_Ascetic
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posted July 08, 2012 07:35 AM
I should probably mention that I have been on a Magic hiatus for several years and am just rediscovering the game. When I stopped playing, they were just coming out with planeswalkers. I was totally shocked at the price of cards in standard when I started back up a couple months back.My brother began telling me about all the mythic rare stuff and planeswalkers and it confused me. I have been sitting back and taking my time taking everything in before starting tournament play again to make sure I understand the new rules and everything first. I apologize for making a thread that apparently comes out every time a new set comes out, but it was funny to me that people pay nearly double for a card what they could pay in a few weeks. Also, if I remember correctly, when I was playing last, you could not begin to play cards from a new set in tournaments until a few weeks after the release. So another question arises in my head. Can we use M13 cards in standard tournaments as soon as the set is officially released now?
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Demilio
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posted July 08, 2012 09:07 AM
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Originally posted by Troll_Ascetic:
I should probably mention that I have been on a Magic hiatus for several years and am just rediscovering the game. When I stopped playing, they were just coming out with planeswalkers. I was totally shocked at the price of cards in standard when I started back up a couple months back.My brother began telling me about all the mythic rare stuff and planeswalkers and it confused me. I have been sitting back and taking my time taking everything in before starting tournament play again to make sure I understand the new rules and everything first. I apologize for making a thread that apparently comes out every time a new set comes out, but it was funny to me that people pay nearly double for a card what they could pay in a few weeks. Also, if I remember correctly, when I was playing last, you could not begin to play cards from a new set in tournaments until a few weeks after the release. So another question arises in my head. Can we use M13 cards in standard tournaments as soon as the set is officially released now?
M13 becomes standard legal on 7/13
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Zeckk
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posted July 08, 2012 03:59 PM
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Originally posted by oneofchaos:
The mythic are bad thing- I enjoyed drafting pre-mythic as opposed to post mythic. Maybe even pre-planeswalker, although the first batch were pretty fair before wizards decided they needed to rule standard. I suppose mythics are not necessarily a bad thing since wizards stated they wanted iconic legends to be mainly mythic. But...lotus cobra? Seriously? How is a snake that makes mana mythic? I wouldn't necessarily attribute mythics in developing a playerbase, the playerbase had been growing for years.
Walkers haven't been dominating standard since ZEN rotated out. Currently, less than a third of the decks you would expect to see at a high-level tournament even contain a walker in their 75. It took them a couple years, but R&D has gotten pretty close to their goal of making planeswalkers essentially enchantments with a little more board interaction.
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