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yakusoku Member	posted February 04, 2013 12:19 PM 3-Card Blind (3CB) is a very unique game. The rules are as follows: * Your deck is composed of 3 cards, all of which start in your hand. * You have no library (technically, the library exists, but starts at 0 cards) and no sideboard (Wishes fetch nothing). * Random effects always go against the owner of the card. * You can see your opponent's hand, so you can always make the best possible play. * You don't lose as a result of not being able to draw a card. * You will play each opponent twice, once going first, once going second. * For each win, you score 3. * For each draw, you score 1. * For each loss, you get nothing. * A subgame played with the card Shahrazad will result in an incomplete game and both players will receive ZERO points, since the main game cannot be resumed. Neither player loses or draws, so neither player earns any points. * Other than the aforementioned, EVERYTHING IS HANDLED EXACTLY LIKE A REAL GAME OF MAGIC! Remember, it is important for your deck to include a way to cast your cards! (Lands, artifact mana, pitch cards, etc.) If you want to play PM me a message in this format. Subject should include "Vanishing 3-Card Blind" (Just click on the little PM icon above my post and it should work out that way.) Card #1 Card #2 Card #3 Be sure you really are happy with your deck before you submit. Once you send in a deck, there is no changing it except in the case of an illegal entry. Please make every effort to spell your card names correctly. It makes it easier for everyone. Thanks. The "Vanishing" part is the twist. To start off with, only Unglued, Unhinged and Ante cards are banned. After each round, the 3 cards in the winning deck plus any cards in more than 1/3 of the decks played will be banned for all future rounds. Any lands that only provide mana are exempted from the banning rules. --------------Current banned list-------------- --------------End of Banning list-------------- I will try and post a new round every Sunday, allow submissions through Tuesday, reveal deck lists first thing on Wednesday and allow scoring until Saturday. NO MISE DECKS! Any deck submitted MUST have some win condition. Any deck that can do no better than a draw against any possible deck will be rejected. A deck that can't win any game is mathematically eliminated from winning the round, and thus would just be taking a chance to win away from someone who could actually have a shot. ALL players will assist in judging. The way this will work is that after the submission period is over, After all decks are revealed, judge your own deck against every other deck (going first and going second). Post your findings here in this thread. They will be reviewed by everyone for accuracy. Once a winner is determined the winners deck will be added to the banned list and the next round will begin. Repeated failure to do your own scoring will result in suspensions! Instead of the normal 40+ weeks that I normally try to drag out the tournament, with no clear winner until our numbers diminish into nothing, we will instead be running each round for only 10 weeks, and at the end declare a winner. Decks: 1. yakusoku Chancellor of the Annex Strip Mine Dryad Arbor 2. Magic1264 Laboratory Maniac Black Lotus Chancellor of the Annex 3. Moonkeeper Black Lotus Gitaxian Probe Laboratory Maniac 4. ryan2754 Black Lotus Kira, Great Glass-Spinner Force of Will 5. MAB_Rapper Dryad Arbor Black Lotus Laboratory Maniac 6. soulbane Black Lotus Channel Emrakul, the Aeons Torn 7. MTGEngineer Black Lotus Geth's Verdict Memnite 8. LemonMeringue Mishra's Workshop Trinisphere Steel Golem 9. bushe Mishra's Factory Calciform Pools Chancellor of the Annex 10. junichi Chancellor of the Annex Black Lotus Laboratory Maniac 11. Link139232 Laboratory Maniac Chancellor of the Annex Black Lotus 12. walkerdog Chancellor of the Annex Wasteland Dryad Arbor [Edited 7 times, lastly by yakusoku on February 13, 2013]
yakusoku Member	posted February 04, 2013 12:23 PM To clarify several major points: 1) Gatecrash IS legal. 2) I will accept entries through February 12 and begin on the 13th. 3) This is VINTAGE (Type 1), so anything legal in that format is legal here. Black Lotus, Moxen, and other "broken" cards are okay. Timmerian Fiends and Darkpact are not. 4) Mishra's Workshop WILL BE BANNED if it ever wins. The power level of this card is insane, but for right now, so is everything else. Very quickly, if left unbanned, the format degenerates into Workshop and anti-Workshop and anti-anti-Workshop decks (which are often worse than the previous two), meaning a stale, stagnant format. If you have any more questions, please post them here as it's likely others have the same concerns.
junichi Moderator	posted February 04, 2013 12:26 PM I assume we aren't getting the 1 free land drop per turn, right? __________________ **Attention DO NOT send cards to Jon Strickland, 1971 St.Laurent Blvd Apt 705, Ottawa Ontario, Canada K1G 3P8. He is a known ripper/hacker.**
yakusoku Member	posted February 04, 2013 02:19 PM quote: Originally posted by junichi: I assume we aren't getting the 1 free land drop per turn, right? That is correct. I removed that whole section. You must be able to cast your spells with the three cards this time.
yakusoku Member	posted February 12, 2013 02:02 PM Last day to submit if you'd like to play.
yakusoku Member	posted February 13, 2013 04:39 AM The decklists have been posted. You may use other formats as well, but this one is a must. Also PLEASE make sure you use the proper deck number for your deck. Replace the '?' on the bottom line with the number next to your name on the decklist. Scoring: Play your deck against each other deck twice, once with you going first, once with them going first. Always remember that each deck is to be played perfectly. For each of the 2 games, score 3 points if your deck wins or 1 point if the game is a draw, with no points for a loss. Some examples: 2 wins (WW) is 6 points. A win and a draw (WD) is 4 points. A win and a loss (WL) is 3 points. 2 draws (DD) is 2 points. A draw and a loss (DL) is 1 point. 2 losses (LL) is 0 points. Plug YOUR deck number into the ? below the ##, and your score against each deck into the other slots. Do not play your deck against itself. Just enter an 'x' in the chart under your deck number. Please copy-and-paste the following code into your Message box in order to assist you with scoring: code: ## 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 TOTAL XX X X X X X X X X X XX XX XX XX
MTGEngineer New Member	posted February 13, 2013 06:57 AM 7. MTGEngineer Black Lotus Geth's Verdict Memnite Results: 1. yakusoku DD 2 Chancellor of the Annex Strip Mine Dryad Arbor 2. Magic1264 DD 2 Laboratory Maniac Black Lotus Chancellor of the Annex 3. Moonkeeper WL 3 - On the play, he plays probe for the win. On the draw, I respond with verdict. Black Lotus Gitaxian Probe Laboratory Maniac 4. ryan2754 DD 2 - He forces Memnite, and we draw both games. Black Lotus Kira, Great Glass-Spinner Force of Will 5. MAB_Rapper LL 0 Dryad Arbor Black Lotus Laboratory Maniac 6. soulbane WW 6 Black Lotus Channel Emrakul, the Aeons Torn 8. LemonMeringue WL 3 - On the play, I drop memnite, Lotus and pay 3 for verdict once he casts golem. On the draw, I play no spells. Mishra's Workshop Trinisphere Steel Golem 9. bushe LL 0 Mishra's Factory Calciform Pools Chancellor of the Annex 10. junichi DD 2 Chancellor of the Annex Black Lotus Laboratory Maniac 11. Link139232 DD 2 Laboratory Maniac Chancellor of the Annex Black Lotus 12. walkerdog DD 2 Chancellor of the Annex Wasteland Dryad Arbor code: ## 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 TOTAL 07 2 2 3 2 0 6 X 3 0 02 02 02 24 [Edited 1 times, lastly by MTGEngineer on February 13, 2013]
MAB_Rapper Member	posted February 13, 2013 07:15 AM 5. MAB_Rapper Dryad Arbor Black Lotus Laboratory Maniac Chancellor of the Annex... wow... The results... 1. yakusoku LL 0 Chancellor of the Annex Strip Mine Dryad Arbor 2. Magic1264 LL 0 Laboratory Maniac Black Lotus Chancellor of the Annex 3. Moonkeeper LL 0 Black Lotus Gitaxian Probe Laboratory Maniac 4. ryan2754 WW 6 - If he forces, I win with Arbor. If not, I win with Maniac. Black Lotus Kira, Great Glass-Spinner Force of Will 6. soulbane LL 0 Black Lotus Channel Emrakul, the Aeons Torn 7. MTGEngineer WW 6 - Arbor being a creature for the win. Black Lotus Geth's Verdict Memnite 8. LemonMeringue WL 3 Mishra's Workshop Trinisphere Steel Golem 9. bushe WW 6 - I can wait until turn 2 to play the combo. Mishra's Factory Calciform Pools Chancellor of the Annex 10. junichi LL 0 Chancellor of the Annex Black Lotus Laboratory Maniac 11. Link139232 LL 0 Laboratory Maniac Chancellor of the Annex Black Lotus 12. walkerdog LL 0 Chancellor of the Annex Wasteland Dryad Arbor code: ## 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 TOTAL 05 0 0 0 6 X 0 6 3 6 00 00 00 21 Looks like Maniac gets the axe anyway... __________________ My 2008 Nationals MOTL's Pro-Tour Winner 2007-2009 Tower Magic Facebook hilikuS: Also, as much as MAB's list has become the list on the T/A Forum, I do miss Slinga's.
walkerdog Member	posted February 13, 2013 08:45 AM 1. yakusoku Chancellor of the Annex Strip Mine Dryad Arbor 2. Magic1264 Laboratory Maniac Black Lotus Chancellor of the Annex 3. Moonkeeper Black Lotus Gitaxian Probe Laboratory Maniac 4. ryan2754 Black Lotus Kira, Great Glass-Spinner Force of Will 5. MAB_Rapper Dryad Arbor Black Lotus Laboratory Maniac 6. soulbane Black Lotus Channel Emrakul, the Aeons Torn 7. MTGEngineer Black Lotus Geth's Verdict Memnite 8. LemonMeringue Mishra's Workshop Trinisphere Steel Golem 9. bushe Mishra's Factory Calciform Pools Chancellor of the Annex 10. junichi Chancellor of the Annex Black Lotus Laboratory Maniac 11. Link139232 Laboratory Maniac Chancellor of the Annex Black Lotus 12. walkerdog Chancellor of the Annex Wasteland Dryad Arbor ## 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 TOTAL x x 2 6 0 6 6 6 2 6 06 06 6 XX 44 (please check my totals! Seems like I crush any black lotus or mishra's workshop deck while getting shredded by land + lotus decks). [Edited 3 times, lastly by walkerdog on February 13, 2013]
Bugger Member	posted February 13, 2013 08:54 AM Dammit, nmissed my opportunity to roll with the anti-lotus deck __________________ It is a known fact that more Americans watch the television than any other appliance.
walkerdog Member	posted February 13, 2013 08:56 AM I really wanted to run double chancellor + arbor.
walkerdog Member	posted February 13, 2013 09:43 AM Yasuoka ## 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 TOTAL 1 x X 6 0 6 6 6 2 6 06 06 6 02 44 (Virtually the same deck as Mine, shouldn't have a different score) Magic1264 ## 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 TOTAL 2 x 0 X 3 4 3 6 6 6 00 02 0 XX 30 Moonkeeper ## 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 TOTAL 3 x 6 3 X 2 6 6 3 3 06 02 03 6 43 I think? Beast deck! [Edited 1 times, lastly by walkerdog on February 13, 2013]
yakusoku Member	posted February 13, 2013 05:04 PM walkerdog, Dryad Arbor can't tap for mana the turn it enters the battlefield, so you get a turn to Wasteland their Arbor before they can cast Black Lotus. This should change some of your scores.
walkerdog Member	posted February 13, 2013 05:26 PM quote: Originally posted by yakusoku: walkerdog, Dryad Arbor can't tap for mana the turn it enters the battlefield, so you get a turn to Wasteland their Arbor before they can cast Black Lotus. This should change some of your scores. Oh! You are correct. I will review them, thanks.
Link139232 Member	posted February 13, 2013 05:55 PM 1. yakusoku DD Chancellor of the Annex Strip Mine Dryad Arbor 2. Magic1264 DD Laboratory Maniac Black Lotus Chancellor of the Annex 3. Moonkeeper WL Black Lotus Gitaxian Probe Laboratory Maniac 4. ryan2754 WD Black Lotus Kira, Great Glass-Spinner Force of Will 5. MAB_Rapper WW Dryad Arbor Black Lotus Laboratory Maniac 6. soulbane WW Black Lotus Channel Emrakul, the Aeons Torn 7. MTGEngineer WW Black Lotus Geth's Verdict Memnite 8. LemonMeringue WW Mishra's Workshop Trinisphere Steel Golem 9. bushe LL Mishra's Factory Calciform Pools Chancellor of the Annex 10. junichi DD Chancellor of the Annex Black Lotus Laboratory Maniac 11. Link139232 Laboratory Maniac Chancellor of the Annex Black Lotus 12. walkerdog DD Chancellor of the Annex Wasteland Dryad Arbor I changed my list to Memnite Gut Shot Chancellor but I guess it didn't count or something. [Edited 1 times, lastly by Link139232 on February 13, 2013]
yakusoku Member	posted February 13, 2013 06:20 PM quote: The Rules: Be sure you really are happy with your deck before you submit. Once you send in a deck, there is no changing it except in the case of an illegal entry.
walkerdog Member	posted February 13, 2013 07:48 PM I updated my posts; I show Yasu and I with 44 each on flipping the matchup with MAB 180 degrees.
bushe Member	posted February 14, 2013 06:41 AM code: ## 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 TOTAL 09 0 6 0 6 0 6 6 6 X 06 06 00 42 Most ridiculous part: I thought I was being clever with chancellor of the annex should have known that would be too obvious for you crafty people. But at least I am the only one who can actually cast it! [Edited 1 times, lastly by bushe on February 14, 2013]
walkerdog Member	posted February 14, 2013 08:56 AM ## 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 TOTAL x x 0 2 0 4 6 6 2 6 02 x 0 XX 28 Corrected yours Link; you lose to Yaku and myself because you cannot get lotus into play while we have 1/1s to beat you to death with. quote: Originally posted by Link139232: 1. yakusoku DD Chancellor of the Annex Strip Mine Dryad Arbor 2. Magic1264 DD Laboratory Maniac Black Lotus Chancellor of the Annex 3. Moonkeeper WL Black Lotus Gitaxian Probe Laboratory Maniac 4. ryan2754 WD Black Lotus Kira, Great Glass-Spinner Force of Will 5. MAB_Rapper WW Dryad Arbor Black Lotus Laboratory Maniac 6. soulbane WW Black Lotus Channel Emrakul, the Aeons Torn 7. MTGEngineer WW Black Lotus Geth's Verdict Memnite 8. LemonMeringue WW Mishra's Workshop Trinisphere Steel Golem 9. bushe LL Mishra's Factory Calciform Pools Chancellor of the Annex 10. junichi DD Chancellor of the Annex Black Lotus Laboratory Maniac 11. Link139232 Laboratory Maniac Chancellor of the Annex Black Lotus 12. walkerdog DD Chancellor of the Annex Wasteland Dryad Arbor I changed my list to Memnite Gut Shot Chancellor but I guess it didn't count or something.
walkerdog Member	posted February 14, 2013 09:01 AM quote: Originally posted by bushe: code: ## 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 TOTAL 09 0 6 0 6 0 6 6 6 X 06 06 00 42 Most ridiculous part: I thought I was being clever with chancellor of the annex should have known that would be too obvious for you crafty people. But at least I am the only one who can actually cast it! My 2 favorite lists (I felt wasteland/strip mine was going too deep in Yasu and my cases) were yours, and Moonkeepers
junichi Moderator	posted February 14, 2013 09:54 AM ## 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 TOTAL 10 0 0 2 0 4 6 6 2 6 xx 02 00 28 __________________ **Attention DO NOT send cards to Jon Strickland, 1971 St.Laurent Blvd Apt 705, Ottawa Ontario, Canada K1G 3P8. He is a known ripper/hacker.**
yakusoku Member	posted February 14, 2013 03:10 PM walkerdog, It's yaku(soku). Not a big deal, but you've typed out "yasu" a couple of times now.
walkerdog Member	posted February 14, 2013 03:26 PM quote: Originally posted by yakusoku: walkerdog, It's yaku(soku). Not a big deal, but you've typed out "yasu" a couple of times now. I mean, at least all 4 letters are in your name... My bad.
bushe Member	posted February 15, 2013 08:16 AM quote: Originally posted by walkerdog: My 2 favorite lists (I felt wasteland/strip mine was going too deep in Yasu and my cases) were yours, and Moonkeepers I think the strip/waste was just the right amount of meta obv. But thanks for saying.
LemonMeringue Member	posted February 15, 2013 08:38 AM 1. yakusoku - LL Chancellor of the Annex Strip Mine Dryad Arbor 2. Magic1264 - LL Laboratory Maniac Black Lotus Chancellor of the Annex 3. Moonkeeper - LL Black Lotus Gitaxian Probe Laboratory Maniac 4. ryan2754 - WW Black Lotus Kira, Great Glass-Spinner Force of Will 5. MAB_Rapper - WL Dryad Arbor Black Lotus Laboratory Maniac 6. soulbane - WL Black Lotus Channel Emrakul, the Aeons Torn 7. MTGEngineer - WL Black Lotus Geth's Verdict Memnite 8. LemonMeringue Mishra's Workshop Trinisphere Steel Golem 9. bushe - Mishra's Factory Calciform Pools Chancellor of the Annex 10. junichi - LL Chancellor of the Annex Black Lotus Laboratory Maniac 11. Link139232 - LL Laboratory Maniac Chancellor of the Annex Black Lotus 12. walkerdog - LL Chancellor of the Annex Wasteland Dryad Arbor

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