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Topic: The Post for Magic Stuff Part 40
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stu55
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posted August 08, 2010 10:11 AM
      
Always wanted to start one...roll over into the 40s now
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gaeacradle
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posted August 08, 2010 11:31 AM
 
So I'm pretty excited about TCG Player new $5K series, especially Sealed on Sunday instead of Legacy.
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stu55
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posted August 08, 2010 11:39 AM
that sucks...this sealed format is so luck dependent..Legacy is a format where the better player will usually win
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wayne
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posted August 08, 2010 11:59 AM
Didn't meet a single UW deck in the Standard Daily Event today!
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wayne
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posted August 08, 2010 12:12 PM
quote:
Originally posted by stu55:
that sucks...this sealed format is so luck dependent..Legacy is a format where the better player will usually win
Speaking of sealed, I hate not opening a single Crystal Ball.
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marriedwithchildren
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posted August 08, 2010 12:14 PM
Is no-one excited about the GenCon championship event results? I played against Owen (Vintage Champion) last year at the Tha Slinga's Xtreme Open. I guess the top 2 vintage decks were the same EVERY card! In legacy Goblins dodged a mini Belch to win the third game in the Finals of Legacy.
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Eatatjoes
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posted August 08, 2010 01:10 PM
Props to Owen, he is a multiformat beast
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gaeacradle
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posted August 08, 2010 01:22 PM
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Originally posted by stu55:
that sucks...this sealed format is so luck dependent..Legacy is a format where the better player will usually win
Yeah I know that. But Sealed will bring in more people. I'm planning to go, and if Legacy was offered on Sunday instead, I think I may be the only one to play on Sunday.
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Heresy19
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posted August 08, 2010 02:15 PM
Replacing a Legacy tournement for a Sealed one?! This is MADNESS!!!!We need MOAR Legacy! :/
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CubFan81
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posted August 09, 2010 10:21 AM
I haven't been on MOTL lately so I missed out on the Levin DQ stuff from the previous PFMS but here's my take.Was the rule applied properly? Absolutely. Was Levin stupid for actually stating it out loud? Most Definitely. Does Wescoe come off looking worse in this? Probably. After the judge was called was the DQ the right move? 100% yes. Don't bet on the outcome of the games. It's a rule. Simple as that. If you do, and you don't want to face the consequences of it then don't tell anyone else about your bet. Done and done. Saying that the DQ was stupid because he was betting on himself is equally stupid because he didn't bet himself that he'd Top 8, he bet with someone else that he'd Top 8. That means that person is betting against Levin and while it didn't and might not have come into play at the GP what happens if the person who is looking at paying out $500 has a chance to scoop someone in who would bump Levin out of the Top 8? The pregnant woman analogy doesn't apply in this case either because it's still against the law. If an officer sees this, he should in all likely hood let the lady into the ER and while they are getting admitted calmly write the driver a ticket, then go find him and ask him to move his vehicle. That law is in place because ambulances need access to that area to unload patients quickly and safely. If a car is blocking that area a second patient (gunshot victim, heart attack, whatever) may miss out on the seconds they need to get proper care.
[Edited 1 times, lastly by CubFan81 on August 09, 2010]
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-PoX-
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posted August 09, 2010 11:40 AM
Oh we're still doing this? Oh well.quote:
Originally posted by CubFan81:
what happens if the person who is looking at paying out $500 has a chance to scoop someone in who would bump Levin out of the Top 8?
Wut?
The person paying the 500$ is WoTC. You get 500$ for making top 8. I'm not sure what you mean here. quote:
Originally posted by CubFan81:
If an officer sees this, he should in all likely hood let the lady into the ER and while they are getting admitted calmly write the driver a ticket
And then end up on Fark.com with an "asinine" tag.
How hard is it to just go "ok I understand, just move your car ASAP sir".
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CubFan81
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posted August 09, 2010 12:47 PM
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Originally posted by -PoX-:
The person paying the 500$ is WoTC. You get 500$ for making top 8.
I meant the guy Levin made (or didn't) make his bet against. quote:
And then end up on Fark.com with an "asinine" tag.
How hard is it to just go "ok I understand, just move your car ASAP sir".
Which is fine since that would be up to the officer at the time. Much like they can give you a warning for speeding or give you a ticket. Those laws leave a little room for bending since they can't ticket every single car going over the limit and circumstances could allow for a quick hospital drop off. But you can't use a real life situation that obviously allows for a little leeway when comparing it to a situation that really doesn't. Either you can bet on outcomes of the games or you can't. And in almost every major competition you aren't allowed to bet on games within your own field. ARod is perfectly capable of betting on last nights Bengals-Cowboys game if he wants to but not tonight's Cubs-Giant, let alone Yankees-Red Sox.
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wayne
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posted August 09, 2010 02:44 PM
Overwhelming Stampede <3.
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yakusoku
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posted August 09, 2010 02:54 PM
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Originally posted by wayne:
Overwhelming Stampede <3.
My friend would disagree with you. He drafted a deck with Overwhelming Stampede and Sword and lost... to a deck with Overwhelming Stampede and Sword.
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gaeacradle
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posted August 09, 2010 03:36 PM
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Originally posted by yakusoku:
My friend would disagree with you. He drafted a deck with Overwhelming Stampede and Sword and lost... to a deck with Overwhelming Stampede and Sword.
Haha....that's hillarious. Man, I wish I have more time to do MODO.
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stu55
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posted August 09, 2010 03:44 PM
quote:
Originally posted by wayne:
Overwhelming Stampede <3.
what is your modo name?
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boootlegger
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posted August 09, 2010 04:01 PM
quote:
Originally posted by stu55:
that sucks...this sealed format is so luck dependent..Legacy is a format where the better player will usually win
Theres a fine line between being good at something and being lucky. Every card game as a luck percentage and Magic is no different. BL
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caquaa
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posted August 09, 2010 04:54 PM
ah, wayne's posts on the last PFMS came back last night... Conundrum Sphinx!had some idiot, fatguy_poolshark3, go on and on about how naming something other then a basic land was bad for me. If he got the basic land he named he would "get ahead". I'm not sure how this logic holds up when you have 6+ lands as we both did. I was naming doomblade as I had a pair in my deck and it would certainly effect the outcome of the game more then naming island. two games later... swing naming mind control, whiff ... swing naming mind control, whiff ... swing naming mind control, HIT! Not sure how people dont understand you name the card that will have the most impact on the game, not the card you're most likely to get. Sometimes that card is a basic land, typically not for me.
Also if you are fatguy_poolshark3, speak up! He disconnected on me and got reported, lol. I hate people that do that so much.
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stu55
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posted August 09, 2010 06:05 PM
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Originally posted by caquaa:
ah, wayne's posts on the last PFMS came back last night... Conundrum Sphinx!had some idiot, fatguy_poolshark3, go on and on about how naming something other then a basic land was bad for me. If he got the basic land he named he would "get ahead". I'm not sure how this logic holds up when you have 6+ lands as we both did. I was naming doomblade as I had a pair in my deck and it would certainly effect the outcome of the game more then naming island. two games later... swing naming mind control, whiff ... swing naming mind control, whiff ... swing naming mind control, HIT! Not sure how people dont understand you name the card that will have the most impact on the game, not the card you're most likely to get. Sometimes that card is a basic land, typically not for me.
Also if you are fatguy_poolshark3, speak up! He disconnected on me and got reported, lol. I hate people that do that so much.
It is almost wrong to not name a land. You are trying to draw cards off of it to draw more and gain the advantage. IF you are naming a non-land you are usually on a 1-2 outer to win. Barring that circumstance, just go for the advantage and name the lands, even with 6 out, there are more lands then any individual spell in your deck
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Bugger
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posted August 09, 2010 06:27 PM
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Originally posted by stu55:
It is almost wrong to not name a land. You are trying to draw cards off of it to draw more and gain the advantage. IF you are naming a non-land you are usually on a 1-2 outer to win. Barring that circumstance, just go for the advantage and name the lands, even with 6 out, there are more lands then any individual spell in your deck
I think caquaa's point is that if you name a basic land, yeah you have a better chance of getting it, but (in most circumstances)... so what? And if you name a basic land and then don't get it, you're putting a spell on the bottom of your library- possibly a spell you could have needed, or at least used to gain an advantage.
On the other hand, if you name whatever spell is in your deck that you really need at that point (if you don't have it already), yeah you're not likely to draw it, but if you do flip it over... you're golden.
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caquaa
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posted August 09, 2010 08:25 PM
A land is of zero advantage most of the time he sees play. So what if I get it, I'd rather just miss and send a land to the bottom. Even if I'm winning I'd name cards that would help me win more. Getting basics just seems bad unless I need them for something. By time you get to the 6 range, thats plenty
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stu55
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posted August 09, 2010 08:28 PM
But thats not what makes the Sphinx good (beyond the 4/4 flyer for 4)...you are gaining card advantage, regardless of what you draw.
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caquaa
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posted August 09, 2010 08:50 PM
"card advantage" isn't useful. Cards that do something are, hence the point of card advantage. I have more cards that do stuff then you, gg. I have 20 lands... you win.also, we're talking limited here. I'm not sure if the same holds true for constructed. I'm not certain hes playable in constructed...
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wayne
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posted August 10, 2010 02:18 AM
I think regarding the naming of the card, basic land is the way to go unless you need a particular card to win the game, then you probably have to name it so that it does not hit the bottom of the deck.
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WestWycke
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posted August 10, 2010 05:47 AM
I'm going to have to agree with caquaa on this one.Drawing extra cards usually equates to card advantage. This is because:
a) you might get something useful
b) you might only get land, but now you don't have to draw that land next turn with your draw step. You've dug further into your deck towards the stuff you want. Conundrum Sphinx doesn't fit either of these definitions if you name basic land.
a) You won't get something useful (unless you really need the basic land)
b) Getting the land doesn't dig you further into your deck since you are going to send the card to the bottom anyway. While the odds of getting a hit might be higher by naming a basic land instead of a spell you want, the usefulness of the land is so much lower that I'd rather take my chances with a spell. __________________
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