http://mythicspoiler.com/ema/index.html

Necro at mythic is probably going to see the biggest amount of complaining. Mainly just because of the value, not because of the power level.

Sylvan Library makes me happy. I still love my Legends copies, but this is a good one for accessibility issues.

The list so far actually makes me hopeful.

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8 Wasteland
5 Force of will
over a dozen non-foil and 4 foil Deathrite Shaman
over a dozen non-foil and 4 foil Abrupt Decay
4 Dualcaster mage/55 twinflame (don't judge me)
and anything from standard that isn't played heavily in modern
2-4 gamble
3-4 toxic deluge
1 original, a few wb Sylvan Library
4 jace tms
1 necropotence
some non-zero # of sneak attack...probaly 1-3
4-6 goblin charbelcher
8ish daze
4-8 bloodbraid elf
4-7 chrome mox
8 ish nimble mongoose
1 mana crypt - english

and cards that could be including but not limited to:
Imperial Recruiter
Show and tell
rishadan port
Karakas
mana drain
imperial seal
grim tutor

i'm just sort of hoping the increase in reserve list staples i have outways what i lose through ema reprints

I do hope they reprint these cards

The biggest 'win' for me thus far is Mana Crypt, that I sold off my copies already, and would be happy to re-buy into at a reasonable price.

Will be taking a 'loss' with a couple each of Jace, Gamble, Sneak Attack, and FoW that I still have.

Show and Tell will be interesting to watch for (among some others), where it could quickly bounce up $20+ if not on the list, or drop down $20+ if it is there. I sold one and kept one to hedge my bet. ;-)

Here's the kicker. I know for a fact he was the very first person to pre-order it.

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Originally posted by superpup:
A lot of 'oh cool' and then 'oh crap' moments this morning as the spoilers came out...

The biggest 'win' for me thus far is Mana Crypt, that I sold off my copies already, and would be happy to re-buy into at a reasonable price.

Will be taking a 'loss' with a couple each of Jace, Gamble, Sneak Attack, and FoW that I still have.

Show and Tell will be interesting to watch for (among some others), where it could quickly bounce up $20+ if not on the list, or drop down $20+ if it is there. I sold one and kept one to hedge my bet. ;-)

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I have one crypt left out of the four I had at one point...the four I bought as a playset for $10 back around 2001. The reprint is not hurting my feelings too much.

I'm sad to see some value lost in my collection...but I also realize I'm probably not going to be getting rid of a lot of those cards anytime soon. Also, most of them I obtained well before prices on older stuff went crazy. I've had the bulk of my vintage stuff since around 2001.

I'm also super happy to possibly pick up some stuff I missed out on and have no felt like paying much to get. Toxic Deluge is on that list. As has been mentioned, I'm really hoping for that Flusterstorm reprint as well.

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Originally posted by caquaa:
A bunch of nice cards spoiled. First thing I think is, "Neat, I need to buy some boxes!"

After thinking about it a little longer, I own most of this stuff. The cards I do want, I want in foil so opening boxes doesn't make sense. Reasonable chance I just pass on buying this set and buy the foils I want.... assuming they don't screw up the foiling process.

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that's where i landed. i talked myself out of going to my lgs and buying the lottery ticket these are. i'll let someone else open trash and trade them for the 1 good card they open out of 3 boxes.

rip mtg financial decisions.

Worldgorger at Mythic? I forsee some saltiness on that one. OTJ was so long ago. Was that card a problem in limited at all? I can't understand why it would need to be mythic.

Also...come on Serum Visions!

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Originally posted by iccarus:
The inclusion of Vampiric Tutor, Enlightened Tutor, and Entomb probably kills my hopes of a Demonic Tutor reprint slipping in. I'm guessing we'll get Mystical Tutor to "finish" the cycle.

Worldgorger at Mythic? I forsee some saltiness on that one. OTJ was so long ago. Was that card a problem in limited at all? I can't understand why it would need to be mythic.

Also...come on Serum Visions!

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Originally posted by iccarus:
The inclusion of Vampiric Tutor, Enlightened Tutor, and Entomb probably kills my hopes of a Demonic Tutor reprint slipping in. I'm guessing we'll get Mystical Tutor to "finish" the cycle.

Worldgorger at Mythic? I forsee some saltiness on that one. OTJ was so long ago. Was that card a problem in limited at all? I can't understand why it would need to be mythic.

Also...come on Serum Visions!

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Like has been said, I shouldn't worry too much about value lost on cards I didn't plan to sell any time soon anyway, but can't help it. If I can pick up some goodies now at about 1/2 the cost that I could before, then hopefully worth it.

Control Magic at a Rare -- good card for limited but crappy for pack buying (not everything can be a cash winner, but still...) ... I'm sure that is what I will get as my rare in the first pack I buy.

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Originally posted by A1phaMale:
Value-wise, how do y'all think this set will compare to MM1 and MM2 when those sets were first released? There was a lot of crap in the MM sets and I'm seeing more useful cards in this set, with perhaps three expensive non-foil cards (FoW, Karakas, and Mana Crypt); however, these cards pale in comparison to the price of Tarmogoyf.

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EMA is going to beat MM2 at the very least, and most likely run by MM1.

Foil Mana Crypts, Foil Karakas, Foil FoW, Foil Vampiric Tutor, Foil Dack, Foil Animate Dead, foil Dualcaster Mage, foil Mishra's Factory, foil Balance, foil Top, foil Entomb, foil Enlightend Tutor, foil Maze of Ith, foil Sylvan Library, foil Toxid Deluge, foil Gamble, foil JTMS, foil Charbelcher, foil Deathrite, foil Necropotence, foil Sneak Attack, foil Chrome Mox, foil Daze, foil Wasteland.

And that's just the foil versions of what is currently spoiled.

For reference, here's both MM1 and MM2's current high-ticket items: All of which WotC can easily reprint in supplemental products any time they want. A lot of them also fit into regular sets.

http://mtg.dawnglare.com/?p=viz&s=MMA|MM2

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Originally posted by A1phaMale:
Value-wise, how do y'all think this set will compare to MM1 and MM2 when those sets were first released? There was a lot of crap in the MM sets and I'm seeing more useful cards in this set, with perhaps three expensive non-foil cards (FoW, Karakas, and Mana Crypt); however, these cards pale in comparison to the price of Tarmogoyf.

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Right now, it's already crapping on MM2015. As long as the printing process isn't as bad as it was in MM2, and the chance for foils isn't as screwed up, I think EMA is going to crush sales for WotC and be pretty good value for players buying in just based on what's been released. Now if they release a string of garbage from here on out, all bets are off.

My major concern is literally the printing process. If it's anything close to the crap they pulled in MM2015, I'm out. It's also why I don't want to preorder any of it. I need to know what it's going to feel and look like to drop that kind of money on it.

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Originally posted by superpup:
Yay for more Tops to pick up cheaper, boo for the value of the Tops I already have. One of my favorites, I put one in as many casual decks as I can (so have quite a few but could use more).

Like has been said, I shouldn't worry too much about value lost on cards I didn't plan to sell any time soon anyway, but can't help it. If I can pick up some goodies now at about 1/2 the cost that I could before, then hopefully worth it.

Control Magic at a Rare -- good card for limited but crappy for pack buying (not everything can be a cash winner, but still...) ... I'm sure that is what I will get as my rare in the first pack I buy.

11 of a probable 15 mythics revealed thus far.

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Originally posted by LandDestroyer:
they said on twitter it uses the normal foiling process not the jacked up ones

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my updated list

"I've started a section in my box of cards that are now worth less than what I paid for them and thus I'll just never get rid of.

Population is currently:

Due to being reprinted in Eternal Masters:

8 Wasteland
5 Force of will
1 mana crypt
4 jace tms
4 Dack Fayden
2 Karakas
4 Chain lightning (english) jeez, uncommon? painful
7ish ichorid (1 foil, 6 non-foil)
2 Vindicate
2-4 Entomb including judge foil
1 World Gorge Dragon
2 Maze of Ith
3-4 toxic deluge
1 necropotence
1 Vampiric tutor
4-8 Enlightened Tutor
4 Cabal therapy
4 shardless agent
4-6 goblin charbelcher
4-8 Mishra's factory
8+ daze
4-8 bloodbraid elf
4-7 chrome mox
xx Wrath of god
8 ish nimble mongoose
2-4 gamble
1 original, a few wb Sylvan Library
4 Sensei's divining top...i'd rather them have banned it than reprinted it
x Nev's disk x counterspell including alpha/beta
over a dozen non-foil and 4 foil Deathrite Shaman
x Animate Dead including Beta
x Balance including Alpha

from previous reprints

4 Thoughtseize (lorywyn)
4 Polluted Delta (Onslaught)
4 Flooded Strand (Onslaught)
4 Wooded Foothills (Onslaught)
4 Bloodstained Mire (Onslaught)
4 Windswept Heath (Onslaught)
4 Stifle
etc

And just bad purchases haha

4 Dualcaster mage/55 twinflame (don't judge me)
over a dozen non-foil and 4 foil Abrupt Decay
some non-zero # of sneak attack...probaly 1-3
and anything from standard that isn't played heavily in modern

And high risk cards, some of which already went down on EMA announcement like Show & Tell:

Imperial Recruiter
Show and tell
rishadan port
mana drain
grim tutor
dark depths

Cards I'm HOPING get reprinted in EMA

Imperial Seal
The filter lands like mystic gate for miracles
thorn of amethyst
sphere of resistence
Goblin guide
Mishra's Bauble
Damnation (come on, please...we've only been asking forever)
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Edit: So...now that according to the number crunching the Zendikar Fetch lands are out...the people who'd been waiting to buy going into modern PPTQ season will be buying fetches. So this should drive up prices, right. I've got 4 original Zen Foil Verdant Catacombs I've been debating when to trade and what all for.

Also: