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Topic: Discussion: What's the best 'or best offer' you've ever completed on eBay?
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LandDestroyer Member
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posted December 10, 2014 02:47 PM
I know some sellers use the 'best offer' option but then never accept anything below the listed price. I also know some people have gotten substantial discounts.What are your best stories?
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Pail42 Member
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posted December 10, 2014 03:03 PM
Nobody has ever accepted my offer.Honestly, if you aren't going to accept an offer of $X then start the auction above $X you cheapskate.
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slurpee Member
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posted December 10, 2014 03:17 PM
I find that I only use them on mtg cards when I am looking for multiples of cards. I usually just state the lowest auction price and they accept it. I don't try for 10% or more off of the lowest price, why would they accept it?
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LandDestroyer Member
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posted December 10, 2014 03:27 PM
quote: Originally posted by Pail42: Nobody has ever accepted my offer.Honestly, if you aren't going to accept an offer of $X then start the auction above $X you cheapskate.
The fact that reserve auctions exists drives me insane and I never bid on them. I'm like 'just make your reserve your minimum bid you piece of @#$Q'. Been doing ebay since 2001 and by 2003 I was like 'never bidding on a reserve auction every again'. quote: Originally posted by slurpee: I find that I only use them on mtg cards when I am looking for multiples of cards. I usually just state the lowest auction price and they accept it. I don't try for 10% or more off of the lowest price, why would they accept it?
If they've had the auction there for a while sometimes they accept. Like I said, I know people who've gotten great deals and heard about them on motl before. But some sellers, like Dan Bock, I've never had success even getting a few cents off.
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slurpee Member
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posted December 10, 2014 03:36 PM
I can with Dan on cards less then 5.00, but I try not to bid on his stuff, because he lists everything as Excellent condition. Which turns out to be everything that is not pack fresh to bent corners...On stuff greater then 5.00, not to often will he accept a best offer, as he will sit on it for as long as he wants because I think he knows that he has a very large collection and therefore people will buy from him when they are looking for multiples of a card.
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Volcanon Member
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posted December 10, 2014 05:50 PM
I put up a card at $150 with offers that was probably worth $150. The best offer was $30. I counteroffered with $149.99 but they didn't take it.
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aethertech Member
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posted December 10, 2014 07:01 PM
Just a note, as this is a subject [Dan Bock], I have some real world experience with.You will almost NEVER get a discount from him - unless he actually likes you in real life; or you've brought a substantial amount of product from him, or his brick and motor store(s)? Also, he's one of the primary reasons Damnation is a $35-40 card, instead of $15-20 - when he [Dan Bock] went and brought a rather large number of the card; and he intends to sit on his investment for a bit.
Source - talked to him, and his employees.
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LandDestroyer Member
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posted December 10, 2014 08:24 PM
quote: Originally posted by aethertech: Just a note, as this is a subject [Dan Bock], I have some real world experience with.You will almost NEVER get a discount from him - unless he actually likes you in real life; or you've brought a substantial amount of product from him, or his brick and motor store(s)? Also, he's one of the primary reasons Damnation is a $35-40 card, instead of $15-20 - when he [Dan Bock] went and brought a rather large number of the card; and he intends to sit on his investment for a bit.
Source - talked to him, and his employees.
I've heard that from others as well. I hope damnation gets printed as a rare in mma 2015.
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aethertech Member
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posted December 10, 2014 08:35 PM
quote: Originally posted by LandDestroyer: I've heard that from others as well. I hope damnation gets printed as a rare in mma 2015.
Most likely, that seems to be the case at this point. It doesn't quite fit into the Khans block; and WotC seems to be straying away from the '4-mana wrath always in standard,' shpeil that they had a few years ago. The other option; which was CMDR 2014 product gave us...junk for Wraths; and I doubt Damnation in the last Core Set is a good idea. But MMA2 seems like a very likely contender this time around; since MMA didn't have a "destroy all creatures" wrath.
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LandDestroyer Member
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posted December 11, 2014 06:16 AM
quote: Originally posted by aethertech: Most likely, that seems to be the case at this point. It doesn't quite fit into the Khans block; and WotC seems to be straying away from the '4-mana wrath always in standard,' shpeil that they had a few years ago. The other option; which was CMDR 2014 product gave us...junk for Wraths; and I doubt Damnation in the last Core Set is a good idea. But MMA2 seems like a very likely contender this time around; since MMA didn't have a "destroy all creatures" wrath.
Ya, the fact that damnation was the 4 mana wrath in the mono black commander product was annoying enough. if it isn't in mma2 I'll scream.
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Nicksmagic Member
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posted December 11, 2014 06:35 AM
I offered $150 on an item listed at $300 and the seller accepted.I think I told this one before, but my favorite one so far was when a seller named "magiccardsneverdevalue" had a set of foil 7th Lord of Atlantis for sale. He wanted $280 but I offered him $240 which was a good rate. He declined of course, but a week later sent me a message saying he was strapped for cash and would accept my offer. I passed because of the irony of the situation.
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LandDestroyer Member
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posted December 11, 2014 07:02 AM
quote: Originally posted by Nicksmagic: I offered $150 on an item listed at $300 and the seller accepted.I think I told this one before, but my favorite one so far was when a seller named "magiccardsneverdevalue" had a set of foil 7th Lord of Atlantis for sale. He wanted $280 but I offered him $240 which was a good rate. He declined of course, but a week later sent me a message saying he was strapped for cash and would accept my offer. I passed because of the irony of the situation.
I've actually done the same. Made an offer on a card, seller was kinda of rude and declined. Then comes back later and says sure so I pass and they have to sell for less. I've also had someone trying to buy my cards and low balled me too much, I counter with a good offer and they blow me off. Then someone else comes up and offers me like 99% of what I offered the other guy at the same time the other comes back trying to accept what I offered him. I sold it to the guy who offered me 99% of what I was gonna sell the other guy just b/c he was nicer and the other guy was rude.
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aethertech Member
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posted December 11, 2014 11:21 AM
I have also "passed" on return counters; and brought the same item from another seller for a bit more then my offer was. And then told the person I offered too that they should be a bit more "flexible" in accepting offers - especially offers that are 1-2% close to the "sold listing" price.
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iccarus Member
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posted December 11, 2014 12:43 PM
I don't think I've ever actually made an offer. I also tend to disable it from listings I have up because most of the offers people submit are terrible and border on insulting. I know the whole "it's only worth what someone will pay" argument, but I typically only see offers at 50% of market value when I allow them. __________________ Wisconsin - smells like dairy air!I collect Granite Gargoyles. Send them my way.
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pugowar Member
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posted December 12, 2014 03:43 AM
I usually only use offers on my auctions if it is a hard to value item and I am trying to gauge the interest.I usually pick a really high starting amount and give the option of "offers" to help me figure out where I should start my next auction out. I did this when I was selling my complete Star Wars CCG collection. I was the only one offering it and picked a random price of like $5,000. I ended up with an offer of $3,500. (which was still like $2,000 more than I had expected) We ended up settling on $4,000. I don't think I would really ever use it for obvious priced items. Tim
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Demilio Member
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posted December 12, 2014 04:46 AM
Most recently, after some back and forth, 98 for a 110 card.
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mnDiff Member
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posted December 12, 2014 06:50 AM
well I guess it depends on the seller and how he conceive the best offer option...sometimes I use it as a large quantity discount ... for exemple... as a seller I recently accepted : 5 Antiquities booster : 95$/pce instead of 149.99$ 12 FBB Italian Booster : 92$/pce instead of 119.99$ which I would all decline for 1 or 2 booster
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LandDestroyer Member
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posted December 12, 2014 07:46 AM
quote: Originally posted by mnDiff: well I guess it depends on the seller and how he conceive the best offer option...sometimes I use it as a large quantity discount ... for exemple... as a seller I recently accepted : 5 Antiquities booster : 95$/pce instead of 149.99$ 12 FBB Italian Booster : 92$/pce instead of 119.99$ which I would all decline for 1 or 2 booster
I don't think this is too uncommon for older sealed product. I've had some success with 'best offers' on sealed product. I've also had a decent amount of success getting my 'best offer' accepted the worse condition the card is. Sometimes a seller won't have a best offer option but I'll PM them and ask if they'll lower a starting bid or buy it now. Sometimes it works, sometimes I try again if their item doesn't sell and then it works. Pug, I've heard of people saving thousands of dollars on larger magic collections before so that doesn't surprise me. Keep the stories coming!
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ravidell Member
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posted December 15, 2014 02:04 PM
If I already have the lowest BIN price on ebay, I'm not going to accept an offer. When you offer $20.00 for a 70.00 item, I add you to the blocked bidders list. I don't bother making offers. I buy or I do not. that simple.
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LandDestroyer Member
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posted December 15, 2014 02:21 PM
quote: Originally posted by ravidell: If I already have the lowest BIN price on ebay, I'm not going to accept an offer. When you offer $20.00 for a 70.00 item, I add you to the blocked bidders list. I don't bother making offers. I buy or I do not. that simple.
ya, people shouldn't be offering $20 for an item that is really worth $70. I don't care what the lowest BIN price is on ebay though tbh, I care about what auctions actually end at. If an card usually ends at $70 and the lowest BIN is $140 with a Best offer option I'm going to offer around $70 and I wouldn't block someone for that on an auction i'm selling.
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AGO Member
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posted December 15, 2014 05:16 PM
I don't understand the bad sellers who don't counter offer. I normally offer at within $10 of the normal price but most just ignore the offer or decline it automatically. Seems like a waste of time.
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Deathbydrawing Member
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posted December 16, 2014 07:39 AM
My best was I offered $50 for a NM playset of Japanese Stoneforge Mystics and the guy accepted my offer because he was strapped for cash.
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