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Topic: Are prices of mythics like prices of foils when they came out?
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Mr.C Member
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posted December 10, 2010 12:36 PM
No, I won't post this at Salvation.Something occurred to me when I was thinking about the perception of value of mythic rares, and it made me go 'hmmmmm...' Basically, for those of you who were playing in Legacy/Masques, remember how foil cards were obscenely expensive, for anything? I remember going into a local store and seeing Foil Ring of Gix for the equivalent of $70, mostly because it was something new and nobody was sure how to price it. I sort of see this happening to mythics. They are as rare as an Ice Age rare, yet the prices are out of whack for something that's actually not that rare. I commented this with a friend here, and he basically said I was nuts, mythic rares would always be worth substantially more because they were mythic. What do you guys think? Sorry if this sounds a bit convoluted, engrish is not my frist langauge
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junichi Moderator
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posted December 10, 2010 01:02 PM
quote: Originally posted by Mr.C: No, I won't post this at Salvation.Something occurred to me when I was thinking about the perception of value of mythic rares, and it made me go 'hmmmmm...' Basically, for those of you who were playing in Legacy/Masques, remember how foil cards were obscenely expensive, for anything? I remember going into a local store and seeing Foil Ring of Gix for the equivalent of $70, mostly because it was something new and nobody was sure how to price it. I sort of see this happening to mythics. They are as rare as an Ice Age rare, yet the prices are out of whack for something that's actually not that rare. I commented this with a friend here, and he basically said I was nuts, mythic rares would always be worth substantially more because they were mythic. What do you guys think? Sorry if this sounds a bit convoluted, engrish is not my frist langauge
Foil Ring of Gix was a $200 card when it first came out.
__________________ 40 Eye of Ugin and 4 foil Eye of Ugin for Black Lotus!?"lol you'll see when these go for 50 bucks a piece in a couple months, you're just jealous. !" - Marciano 315 03/17/2010
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airwalk Member
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posted December 10, 2010 01:15 PM
Eh, many Mythics are barely worth the cardboard they are printed on and aren't valuable because obviously, they suck.The good mythics are standard staples that need to be owned to be highly competitive -- creating a large demand. A great demand draws a great price, even if they aren't any more rare than the worthless trash Mythics. Also, as I remember it was damn hard to pull a foil from Legacy, foils seemed to be much more uncommon back then compared to today.
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Lord Crovax Member
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posted December 10, 2010 04:37 PM
Legacy Common foils were something like 1:15, Uncommon 1:20 and Rare were like 1:25.Then again Commons were 10-20, Uncommon 20-30, and rare were 50+, but this was all legacy, by time masq hit they upped the odds. As for Mythic, yea people seem to treat them like they used to treat foils, its worth more because its Mythic, even if it sucks. __________________ I shall have the souls of all who defy me. "Lord Crovax"
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Markers Member
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posted December 15, 2010 02:56 AM
quote: Originally posted by junichi: Foil Ring of Gix was a $200 card when it first came out.
The good old times When foils replaced Uncommons in Booster and were VERY hard to get __________________ collecting signed cards. Have any? PM me...Some of my cards: http://s1178.photobucket.com/albums/x362/Markersman/Magic/
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WeedIan Member
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posted December 15, 2010 05:52 AM
quote: Originally posted by Markers: The good old times When foils replaced Uncommons in Booster and were VERY hard to get
I thought the foil replaced the rare which made them so expensive and people were upset about it. __________________ Member Since 03/28/2001 10000+ posts 3rd in posts in Ontario 15th in posts on MOTL Top 5 in Refs in Ontario (by people who location posted)
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WestWycke Member
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posted December 15, 2010 06:54 AM
Originally, foils replaced a card of the same rarity. A foil common replaced a common, a foil uncommon replaced an uncommon, and a foil rare replaced the rare.__________________ "If you're right 90% of the time, why quibble about the other 3% ?""I intend to live forever. So far, so good."
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Jtrade77 Member
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posted December 15, 2010 08:13 AM
No, this isn't the case at all.Ring of Gix tanked within two sets, once people realized that foils were here to stay and not a one-of fad decision. Prices on mythics haven't tanked within two YEARS despite a rotation out of standard. In general, the really sought after mythics tend to average out at $10ish after rotation, but they also tend to show in box sets. WotC has muddied the waters by constantly reprinting mythics in other venues, since they are so rare. However, I wouldn't expect something like Baneslayer to ever fall below $10, or something like Jace v2.0 to fall below $20 (unless they do put it in a boxset someday).
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-Lunch_Box- Member
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posted December 16, 2010 02:43 PM
I think you are missing the biggest difference between Legacy/Masque foils then and Mythics now. If you did not want to pay the premium for foils you still had access to a regular rare version that was much cheaper. If you dont want to pay $75 for JtMS or $300 for a playset then you better start considering something without blue
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Volcanon Member
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posted December 16, 2010 08:11 PM
quote: Originally posted by -Lunch_Box-: I think you are missing the biggest difference between Legacy/Masque foils then and Mythics now. If you did not want to pay the premium for foils you still had access to a regular rare version that was much cheaper. If you dont want to pay $75 for JtMS or $300 for a playset then you better start considering something without blue
Or, in casual, playing with proxies.
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Ippon Member
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posted December 17, 2010 09:39 AM
One of my favourite memories was calling a Foil Masticore out of a pack and windmill slamming it onto the table in front of 4 guys in my LGS
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shade2k1 Member
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posted December 17, 2010 09:44 AM
quote: Originally posted by junichi: Foil Ring of Gix was a $200 card when it first came out.
More like $100, actually. It was still crazy-go-nuts, though.
__________________ There is a difference between you and me. We both looked into the abyss. But when it looked back at us...you blinked.
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wayne Member
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posted December 17, 2010 09:52 AM
quote: Originally posted by -Lunch_Box-: I think you are missing the biggest difference between Legacy/Masque foils then and Mythics now. If you did not want to pay the premium for foils you still had access to a regular rare version that was much cheaper. If you dont want to pay $75 for JtMS or $300 for a playset then you better start considering something without blue
Or be a cheapskate like me and run UB without Jace
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