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Forum Rules - Changes to Sending Rules!! READ!! New Announcement! posted by Tha Gunslinga     (December 21, 2010 through December 31, 2030)
The Trade Auctions and Sales forum is for buying and selling Magic: the Gathering, and for Trade Auctions involving only Magic: The Gathering. If it's non-Magic, it belongs in the Non-Magic forum. If you're just looking to trade, you can post in the trading forums.

These rules apply to this forum in addition to the board posting rules.

1. Only one thread at a time is allowed per registered member. This means that you should be careful to delete your old list before posting a new one. If you want to post a buylist and a salelist, then just combine them.

2. You may "up" your thread once per day in this forum.

3. You MUST POST PRICES for anything that you want to sell or buy, or your thread will be closed. If you're selling a collection, it needs a price. If you're selling individually, those cards need prices. You don't have to list individual prices if you're only selling as a lot. Anyone who posts offers on on a Buy/Sale thread with no prices posted will be smacked. In addition, you may not offer more than someone's sale price on a sale list, or offer to sell for less than someone's buy price on a buylist, as this turns the post into a cash auction. Cash auctions are not allowed on this forum.

4. Please do not list cards that you do not have, or that have been sold or bought already. "Pending" and "gone" confuse and irritate people. If a card is gone, delete it. In addition, if you do not have a card in your physical possession, you may not sell it. This means presales are banned.

5. Ebay or other auction site links are banned. Anyone who registers solely to post an auction will be banned for spamming.

6. A trade auction is where you auction off cards, but accept other cards instead of cash. Trade auctions MUST have points posted for all cards involved.

If you are running a trade auction, it is acceptable to put "cash" on your wants, as long as you have an acceptably large number of fairly-priced wants. Bids may not be solely cash.

7. Please do not post on threads that are obviously out of date. If a thread hasn't been upped or edited in the last TEN DAYS, don't post on it.

8. If you and your buying/selling partner are simul-sending, the exchange of addresses confirms the trade. Backing out of the deal after this is not allowed, and if one trader does so, the other may post them on the BTA as a bad trader. If one party is sending first, then the deal is confirmed when the other trader (the one receiving first) sends his/her address.

9. Do not slander, attack, or threaten other members. This includes, but is not limited to, calling other members rippers or bad traders. If someone ripped you off, post them on the BTA. Personal attacks will not be tolerated. In addition, the use of the words "gay" and "retarded" in a derogatory way will get you a karma warning, as will anything similar (IE: slurs involving race, ethnicity, country of origin, etc.) "Gay" and "retarded" are not synonymous with "stupid;" please use them correctly.

10. No repacks.

11.Selling MODO tix is only allowed for members who have been on MOTL for at least one year and have at least 40 MOTL references.

12. If condition is not discussed or mentioned IN WRITING, EX or better condition is to be expected. If your cards are in worse condition, you must let the other trader know.

13. If language isn't discussed IN WRITING, cards are expected to be English.

14. Cards are expected to be tournament-legal if not discussed. This means no Collector's Edition, gold-bordered, or any other special version of a card that isn't legal in a sanctioned event that said card is legal in. Beatdown, Anthologies, etc. are perfectly fine.

15. Please do not link to your store in your lists. When people post links to their stores with the intent of having people use that stores buying option, it removes MOTL from the equation and we cannot protect members that decide to do that.

Changes to Sending Rules:

The following amendments to the sending rules will take effect May 28, 2012. The rules will otherwise remain in effect as they are currently written.

For any deal where the combined value of the contents sent by one party is less than $200, proof (via USPS delivery confirmation or some equivalent) that a package sent by the sending party was delivered to the receiving party will create a rebuttable presumption that the sender fulfilled his or her part of the trade.

For any deal where the combined value of the contents sent by one party is $200 or more, proof (via USPS signature confirmation or some equivalent) that a package sent by the sending party was delivered to and signed for by the receiving party (or someone at the receiving party's address) will create a rebuttable presumption that the sender fulfilled his or her part of the trade.

These presumptions may be rebutted by a preponderance of evidence that the sender did not in fact fulfill his or her part of the trade. In other words, other evidence presented by the receiving party demonstrates that there is a greater than 50% chance that the receiving party did not receive the items he or she was promised.

Sending Rules
Trading disputes on MOTL are governed by the following policy. By using this site, you agree that you understand and consent to be governed by this policy for internal dispute resolutions. This policy covers all transactions where communication initiated as a result of using this site, unless both parties mutually agree on a different sending policy. If a different sending policy is agreed upon, proof of this must be furnished during any dispute resolution. Failure to abide by these terms will result in your account being banned.

The sender must make sure the cards reach their destination. Only the sender can obtain delivery confirmation proof and insure the cards against loss or damage. If a problem has occurred, please resend your part of the deal, return the cards you received (if applicable), or make appropriate monetary restitution (the parties involved can decide on which one of these options is best). If you do send anything via mail, make sure you use signature-required delivery confirmation and insure the cards so the cycle of lack of proof can end. With signature-required delivery confirmation, the recipient can then open the package in the presence of a postal employee and verify the contents with an impartial witness. If you send payment, make sure you use a check or money order that you can use as proof of payment. PayPal and other online payment services also give proof of payment.

Waivers of Responsibility: A waiver of responsibility is an agreement between both members to waive the senderís responsibility of lost/damaged and/or stolen mail. A waiver solely posted on a Non-Magic Have/Want, Magic Have/Want, Trade Auction, Sales or Buy List is not valid. In order for a waiver of responsibility to be valid, both members must agree to the terms and must explicitly state so.

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