Seems to me that we can band-aid this issue very very easily...

Create a new Forum RIGHT UNDER the MAGIC TRADING Forum titled: "References." Everyone could then create a topic within that tread titled: "<USER NAME> References" Then inside post who you have Ref'd and who is owed, or whatever, and here is the part where it all comes together:

In order to be verified, have each person who a ref is owed by or to post a reply to that topic saying what they traded and that they in fact traded with the poster.

I really don't see an easier way to do this... It would take 30 seconds to create a new Forum right under the Magic Trading Forum where everyone can see it, and then users could link that thread in their H/W list so they could use their Refs that they earned.

This would be way more official than simply listing who owes you a ref on your page, and would take little moderation (if any at all). Then, best of all, you could just DELETE it after we fix the real issue!

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Originally posted by JoshSherman:
I like the idea, but worry about possible costs involved with the extra disk space needed to make it happen. You're talking about thousands of threads, after all. If this idea is not cost prohibitive, then I'm sure it's being discussed by our staff as we post

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Originally posted by cerberus:
Just keep track of who you have traded with until the e-mail problem is fixed. I'd much rather have time spent on fixing the problem rather than wasted creating a new forum just so people keep track of who owes them a reference.

It's called notepad. Use it.

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Would you really rather the admins, who have little enough time as it is, to create another forum for a temporary band-aid, instead of using that time wisely on actually fixing the problem? Really?

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And how is that "fixing the problem" thing working out? If Leshrac is the only person that can do something about the problem and 5 months later we still have the problem. I sure in heck wouldn't hold my breath waiting for a new forum to be created to bandaid it.

Not being able to ref people properly, along with new users not being able to sign up, is really killing this site.

Take it from me, I used to help run a bigger forum than this, we had coders to deal with issues (site owner was also a brilliant programmer himself), but having something as a band-aid is better than doing nothing at all.

From what I understand, only the Admin has the power to fix this, so, it wouldn't hurt to get another forum created. This isn't a vBulletin shell so I can't really recommend anything, but every forum software should easily be able to add another sub-branch. Just my two cents, like I said, it doesn't matter to me because I'm saving my references as I go, but not everyone is that careful.

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Originally posted by kobe:
Do we have any real eta on a mail fix?

Not being able to ref people properly, along with new users not being able to sign up, is really killing this site.

If we don't have an eta, I'd rather see a bandaid put in place (along with a new system for new people to join the forums) than continue to wait for something that may or may not happen.

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Is there anything we as members can do to help? Some of us (not particularly me, but I have a couple of friends) are really tech savvy and could probably get the whole thing fixed if they had access to it.

Perhaps what needs to happen, is the person (not sure who this is) who is working on fixing it (and doesn't have enough time to fix it), should request help from one or a few of the members.

Just a thought,

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Originally posted by pulsemage:
hello i havent traded in a while, what is wrong with the ref checker anyway? any does anyone out there know how long it will take to fix? who's job is it to fix it and are they working on it? how long has it been down?

thanks

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It's a problem with the site host not sending emails out, so the ref checks aren't being received so people can fill them out. There is no ETA, and all Leshrac can do is continue to hound the hosting provider until they fix their issues. It's been down for a couple-three months by now, I believe.

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Originally posted by DerFisch:
Question:

Is there anything we as members can do to help? Some of us (not particularly me, but I have a couple of friends) are really tech savvy and could probably get the whole thing fixed if they had access to it.

Perhaps what needs to happen, is the person (not sure who this is) who is working on fixing it (and doesn't have enough time to fix it), should request help from one or a few of the members.

Just a thought,

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There's not even anything that the staff can do. It's a problem with a server out of anyone on MOTL's control. If it was internal, it would have been fixed by now, as Leshrac's pretty handy with this stuff, as are others of us. I personally am an email admin and backup web admin at my day job and would have been happy to assist if it was something that we could take care of.

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Originally posted by cerberus:
Would you really rather the admins, who have little enough time as it is, to create another forum for a temporary band-aid, instead of using that time wisely on actually fixing the problem? Really?

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Originally posted by nderdog:
There's not even anything that the staff can do. It's a problem with a server out of anyone on MOTL's control.

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So if you guys:

1) Can't do anything about the situation.

2) Have no ETA of a Fix.

3) Will not provide us another way to track our references in a public and official matter.

4) Are unwilling to drop your server host.

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Originally posted by cerberus:
Even if I didn't "get" the point of the post, I still stand by my reason not to do it.

Would you really rather the admins, who have little enough time as it is, to create another forum for a temporary band-aid, instead of using that time wisely on actually fixing the problem? Really?

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Would creating a new forum really take more than like 5 minutes?

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Originally posted by EdMan218:
Would creating a new forum really take more than like 5 minutes?

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Originally posted by DerFisch:
I think what he said was that it was more of a space issue than a time issue.

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It's been down for a couple-three months by now, I believe.

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Originally posted by tehdude:
So if you guys:

1) Can't do anything about the situation.

2) Have no ETA of a Fix.

3) Will not provide us another way to track our references in a public and official matter.

4) Are unwilling to drop your server host.

Then why come you will not pop open a temp forum so you can allow the community to regulate our references (with your moderation help of course)???

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Personally, I see this as nothing more than a moderation nightmare. Most traders won't know it's there and won't care whether or not it is. For those that do, there will inevitably be people posting on other members' threads that they had x, y and z problems with them and not to trade with them, then someone would say that they had false claims against them and it would cause far more problems than it would be worth.

It's not hard at all to add a list to your rules section with a list of traders that you have dealt with since the ref checker stopped working that people can contact as needed to see how things went, just like they could do with the ref lists and the "email 10 random references" feature.

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