My proposal is this:

A series of threads, "Take It To The People". Each one would have it's own case, such as "Take It To The People -- XXX Policy" or whatnot. Within the thread, discussion from our members would be encouraged, what they feel the end result should be, what they feel went wrong in the process. Everything. Disagreement is fine but personal attacks and unruly behavior will not be tolerated and will be dealt with swiftly.

How it would go:

If someone, who hasn't posted their case in the BTA, disagrees with a Mod decision about a trade in question, they can contact a Mod and that Mod will post about it in a new thread series and see what the members think. We would keep all parties in question anonymous and the Mod will post about the situation as unbiased as possible. The final decision will still be up to the Mods, but we will take into consideration all that is discussed and perhaps new rules can be made and older rules can be clarified by this process.

What do you think? Be honest, this is my idea, but I want cold, hard, blunt opinions. You won't hurt my feelings, I promise.

I'm going to be posting the first case, which will run alongside this thread, so we can see how it will work, and what issues may arise and can discuss it in progress.

Thanks,
Jazaray

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How long should each case run, do you think? Do you think people would actually weigh in with their opinions?

All cases will be anonymous. The people who are involved in the case will not be permitted to identify themselves, but they will be allowed to weigh in their opinions, as long as those opinions do not reveal them as the subjects in question.

Thanks,
Jazaray

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I don't think it's a good idea to have a public appeal process for BTA rulings in general. You need to be very clear that it will take a LOT of evidence/argument to overturn a ruling.

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Originally posted by JoshSherman:
I'm not sure how many people that don't already do this will be interested, but I'll give it a go.

I don't think it's a good idea to have a public appeal process for BTA rulings in general. You need to be very clear that it will take a LOT of evidence/argument to overturn a ruling.

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This is solely for cases that have NOT been posted on the BTA.

Thanks,
Jazaray

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Originally posted by paragondave:
Cold, hard and blunt opinions, that's my jam!

This may end in a fiery ball of death but I like what you're trying to do here. You know I'll be making popcorn and probably throwing some too.

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Originally posted by hilikuS:
My suggestion would be to send out an email to traders, so not just the regulars on the GD and MD are involved.

So basically the stuff that happened with Hoosk, but formalized? It's hard to keep things anonymous in cases where there's a problem. I mean, everybody can view the BTA and be like... oh it's this case. I'm fine with it though. It'll come out on the forums anyway.

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I will say it again. This is NOT for cases that have an open BTA already. This is for cases that DO NOT have an open BTA. If you've already opened a BTA case, you CAN NOT take part in this series.

Thanks,
Jazaray

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There was a nice lassie named Jaz
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A delicate face,
A soft warm embrace,
And a whole lot of bedroom pizzazz.

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Do you think the mods should weigh in their opinions, or would that influence others too much?

How long do you think each case should run?

Nder has posted more information on the case, do you think this was this a good idea? Was I too vague at the start?

What do you think about posting the trade negotiations? Was it helpful?

Thanks,
Jazaray

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A delicate face,
A soft warm embrace,
And a whole lot of bedroom pizzazz.

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Originally posted by Jazaray:
Now that we've had a day to see how this works a bit, are there any suggestions so far?

Do you think the mods should weigh in their opinions, or would that influence others too much?

How long do you think each case should run?

Nder has posted more information on the case, do you think this was this a good idea? Was I too vague at the start?

What do you think about posting the trade negotiations? Was it helpful?

Thanks,
Jazaray

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I can see moderator's opinions... or anyone with a reputation for that matter influencing how others feel. That's just human nature.

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Originally posted by Jazaray:
Now that we've had a day to see how this works a bit, are there any suggestions so far?

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See below.

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Do you think the mods should weigh in their opinions, or would that influence others too much?

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I think other than pointing out current rules or inaccuracies, I would leave mod opinion out of the thread if the point is to get feedback from the community at-large. As someone said (and I believe), it would influence others' opinions one way or the other.

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How long do you think each case should run?

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I would play it by ear. By that, I mean let it run until no one can think of anything new or insightful to bring to the discussion. If you absolutely need a time limit, I would say 1 week tops.

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Nder has posted more information on the case, do you think this was this a good idea? Was I too vague at the start?

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The information nderdog provided actually makes a huge difference. Otherwise, we're left to assume some things, which would be based on each member's experience. I would say you were a bit vague just based on this particular example. It definitely helps to post details of the entire exchange between the parties.

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What do you think about posting the trade negotiations? Was it helpful?

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Absolutely needed. Yes.

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Thanks,
Jazaray

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Originally posted by chaos021:
The information nderdog provided actually makes a huge difference. Otherwise, we're left to assume some things, which would be based on each member's experience.

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Good to know! I tried to find a balance between too little info that would make it hard to make a decent decision and too much information that may tip off some people to who may have been involved in the deal. Sounds like we hit at least relatively close to the mark.

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