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MeddlingMage
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http://www.mtgsalvation.com/born-of-the-gods-spoiler.html

Looks like the rest of the scry lands are in.

Springleaf Drum...

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Rest? Aren't there going to be 10? I see 5 ths and 3 here. And the drum doesn't make sense yet we shall see.
 
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quote:
Originally posted by jbark:
Rest? Aren't there going to be 10? I see 5 ths and 3 here. And the drum doesn't make sense yet we shall see.

By seeing the 3, I am assuming that the rest of the cycle is in. We just don't know what they are yet.

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They announced (in the scry land spoiler article iirc) that the whole cycle would be spread through the block. The actual order is still important though because, all other things being equal, it gives those color pairs an advantage.
 
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I hope they keep the awesome train rolling. In my opinion, Theros has been pretty solid for limited and constructed. Not a whole lot in terms of Modern/Eternal stuff though.

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quote:
Originally posted by MeddlingMage:
By seeing the 3, I am assuming that the rest of the cycle is in. We just don't know what they are yet.

~MM


I agree. 4/3/3 is fair, but 5/3/2 is saying those last two color pairs can go stick it where the sun don't shine.

 
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Usually the sets seem to come really fast, but I feel like Born of the Gods is taking forever.
 
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quote:
Originally posted by oneofchaos:
I agree. 4/3/3 is fair, but 5/3/2 is saying those last two color pairs can go stick it where the sun don't shine.

Yeah really. I like my colors (b/g) and am sick of using guild gates!


As for the set, I'm excited. I can't wait to see what the multi colored gods will bring us!

 
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Isn't this set be held back longer than usual or something?

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quote:
Originally posted by MeddlingMage:
Isn't this set be held back longer than usual or something?

~MM


It only feels that way since we got Theros far earlier than normal.

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We all knew there were two-color gods from lots of the cards in Theros, but I was listening to Rosewater's podcast and he revealed they are doing the full cycle of all ten 2-color gods.

Considering the spoiler is for the the allied temple cycle to be completed this set I'm going to go ahead and speculate that Born of the Gods has the all the allied-color gods.

quote:
Originally posted by Liq:
It only feels that way since we got Theros far earlier than normal.

Theros is the earliest release, but it's only a few days early than normal. However; the release of Born of the Gods (Feb 7) is also the latest release of the second set since Nemesis (Feb 12). So you have two extremes pushing on both sides to make it feel longer than normal.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MTG_sets#Expansion_sets

It's seems like starting with Shards of Alara they've been targeting the last week of September/first week of October for the first set, and first week of February for the second set. If they had pushed-up BOG instead of pushing it back to Feb 7 it would have been the first-ever January release; which is probably why it's coming out so late.

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Planeswalker from Born of the Gods

Kiora, the Crashing Wave
2GU
Planeswalker-Kiora
+1: Until your next turn, prevent all damage that
would be dealt to and dealt by target permanent
an opponent controls.
-1: Draw a card. You may play an additional land
this turn.
-5: You get an emblem with "At the beginning of
your end step, put a 9/9 blue Kraken creature
token onto the battlefield."
2

source

 
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quote:
Originally posted by skizzikmonger:
Planeswalker from Born of the Gods

Kiora, the Crashing Wave
2GU
Planeswalker-Kiora
+1: Until your next turn, prevent all damage that
would be dealt to and dealt by target permanent
an opponent controls.
-1: Draw a card. You may play an additional land
this turn.
-5: You get an emblem with "At the beginning of
your end step, put a 9/9 blue Kraken creature
token onto the battlefield."
2

source


I like. I like it a lot.

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quote:
Originally posted by MeddlingMage:
I like. I like it a lot.

~MM


She is our first UG 'walker, so I want to like her. But I am just not feeling it. That first ability doesn't feel UG at all. The second ability is all about value and is fully UG but there is no synergy there with the other two abilities. The ultimate make fat tokens but they don't have Islandwalk? Seems odd as most Krakens have Islandwalk or something that ties them to Islands.

Like I said, I want to like her but it really feels like they mailed it in on this one.

 
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quote:
Originally posted by skizzikmonger:
Planeswalker from Born of the Gods

Kiora, the Crashing Wave
2GU
Planeswalker-Kiora
+1: Until your next turn, prevent all damage that
would be dealt to and dealt by target permanent
an opponent controls.
-1: Draw a card. You may play an additional land
this turn.
-5: You get an emblem with "At the beginning of
your end step, put a 9/9 blue Kraken creature
token onto the battlefield."
2

source


Looks solid can has an ability that can protect it, has a good card advantage/mana advantage ability, and ultimate has inevitability to it seems solid.

 
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quote:
Originally posted by stab107:
She is our first UG 'walker, so I want to like her. But I am just not feeling it. That first ability doesn't feel UG at all. The second ability is all about value and is fully UG but there is no synergy there with the other two abilities. The ultimate make fat tokens but they don't have Islandwalk? Seems odd as most Krakens have Islandwalk or something that ties them to Islands.

Like I said, I want to like her but it really feels like they mailed it in on this one.


Mistform Ultimus doesn't have islandwalk.

 
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I like it cause she is a hottie. Should find a place for it in my zegana edh deck as well
 
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She seems like a good fog engine. Extra cards, extra lands, and a win con all in one. I would definitely give her a shot in a UGw fog deck
 
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Dies to Lightning Strike, I would have preferred a higher starting loyalty and higher ultimate cost.


quote:
Originally posted by skizzikmonger:
Planeswalker from Born of the Gods

Kiora, the Crashing Wave
2GU
Planeswalker-Kiora
+1: Until your next turn, prevent all damage that
would be dealt to and dealt by target permanent
an opponent controls.
-1: Draw a card. You may play an additional land
this turn.
-5: You get an emblem with "At the beginning of
your end step, put a 9/9 blue Kraken creature
token onto the battlefield."
2

source


 
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quote:
Originally posted by wayne:
Dies to Lightning Strike, I would have preferred a higher starting loyalty and higher ultimate cost.


Yea, that's my only gripe about her. She cost 4 cmc for a starting 2 loyalty pw....never a good thing when your + ability can't even protect you from a Bolt effect.

Aside from that I really like her, but WOTC really hosed her on the starting loyalty.

 
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Lightning strike and magma jet are barely played in standard right now so its not much of an issue in the current standard. The card to worry about is hero's downfall and well it doesn't matter which walker it is so I can see her getting played. I will try her in UG prophet. Doing tricks with nykthos and powering out crazy mana turn 4.
 
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I'm not sure it matters that she dies to a bolt. I think she's amazing.

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In a pure EDH perspective, she is pretty horrible.

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quote:
Originally posted by junichi:
In a pure EDH perspective, she is pretty horrible.


2UG for Explore, Explore isn't really -horrible-

 
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quote:
Originally posted by Devonin:
2UG for Explore, Explore isn't really -horrible-

It's actually 2UG for an Explore on your first turn, and a conditional Explore on your second turn. It's more than likely that she won't live till your next upkeep in a standard 4 man EDH game sitting at 1 loyalty counter. You are looking at paying 2UG for an explore and a healing salve at best. In a ramp deck, I would rather play Skyshroud Claim, Explosive Vegetation, or Oracle of Mul Daya.

edit:
To put in bluntly, this is Sarkhan the Mad bad.
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