For instance:

When do you think the Onslaught fetchlands will be reprinted? I can see it happening, probably in the next 3 years, to increase modern potential. Opinions?

Someone in another thread had said something about wizards doing things in cycles of 7 years... I'm not sure if this is just conspiracy theorists but if its true, we've got like 3 more years before we see anymore fetches.

I think we will see them sooner than that since it seems their popularity has risen in the recent years.

MY SPECULATING:
What other good cards are going to be in the Modern Masters set...

I'm thinking if it's modern and it's masters they've got to be the best modern cards so...

Tarmogoyf (I think thats verified)
Dark Confidant (Awesome card and full of flavor)
Vendilion Clique
Cryptic Command
Thoughtseize

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Originally posted by Zeckk:
WOTC prints something close enough to a functional reprint of original duals in the next 5 years, inside a premium product (not standard legal). My bet is on a legendary dual land cycle.

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Originally posted by Abinks:
I would love to see Snow-Covered Duals, but with Coldsnap officially wrapping up the Ice Age Block I just don't see it happening.

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Next block will be a cycle of sesons...

Ravnica: Never-ending Winter

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Originally posted by caquaa:
Next block will be a cycle of sesons...

Ravnica: Never-ending Winter

they can put one mishras in each set. 4th season? we'll just squeeze it in some how.

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Originally posted by Zeckk:
WOTC prints something close enough to a functional reprint of original duals in the next 5 years, inside a premium product (not standard legal). My bet is on a legendary dual land cycle.

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How about non-legendary (because things would get legend ruled all day and every day) and just not basic.

Example

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Originally posted by oneofchaos:
How about non-legendary (because things would get legend ruled all day and every day) and just not basic.

Example

blackcleave cliffs without the CIPT. It's fair, it's balanced, and it doesn't invalidate the shocklands completely.

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I say legendary for a couple of reasons.

1. WOTC is actually very conservative in terms of pushing the envelope on the reserve list. They also tend to introduce "role player" cards to the legacy pool, rather than cards that dictate an entire archetype, i.e. Omniscience for show and tell decks, or GSZ for maverick. The last couple of cards that have become deck engines by themselves were SFM and JTMS. They don't like to rock the boat very hard, and legendary lands would have little impact on deck design while still giving newer players an option for designing legacy-playable manabases.

2. It could be quite flavorful if they choose to make a cycle of legendary lands for, say, commander product. This is actually a big deal for a segment of the playerbase, and would have the side effect of guaranteeing that the product sells well.

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Originally posted by mm1983:
Legendary dual lands will be about as close as it gets to reprinting the original duals. I don't think they would be played in legacy or vintage though since a majority of older players have their 40 set of duals.

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Originally posted by mm1983:
Legendary dual lands will be about as close as it gets to reprinting the original duals. I don't think they would be played in legacy or vintage though since a majority of older players have their 40 set of duals.

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I'd rather see them print something like this:

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Originally posted by skizzikmonger:
I'd rather see them print something like this:

No Drawback WU Dual
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T: Add W or U to your mana pool.

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If no drawback duals are gonna see printing, it's gonna be in a commander deck. They have to differentiate modern from legacy, and to make a strictly superier dual over the pains, scars, M10 duals seems unlikely.

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Originally posted by fluffycow:

Another speculate, modern will overtake legacy is popularity within the next 5 years

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I think this might be a foregone conclusion, at least as far as I'm concerned. Wizards will try its hardest. By the time Modern Masters is released, I think it'll already be taking off pretty big.

Legacy is still a diverse format with lots of different stuff going on (unlike Vintage), so I think it will be here to stay, but Modern will be the new shiny exciting thing most people jumps on board with.

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Originally posted by Abinks:
I would love to see Snow-Covered Duals, but with Coldsnap officially wrapping up the Ice Age Block I just don't see it happening.

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I would love to see Wizards do more with the Snow ability. It's something that comes back in more sets (Glacial Ray could be a snow-instant for example).

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Originally posted by hilikuS:
Legacy is still a diverse format with lots of different stuff going on (unlike Vintage), so I think it will be here to stay, but Modern will be the new shiny exciting thing most people jumps on board with.

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Originally posted by caquaa:
. I play infect in legacy to spice things up

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Originally posted by caquaa:
wotc wants modern to take off, but as long as they keep a super restrictive ban list people can't play w/ their favorite cards from those sets. I knew sfm and jtms were going to be on the banned list so I got all excited to play bitterblossom again.... nope! I only play modern when I'm forced to, I certainly don't do it for fun. I really dislike legacy overall as well because stoneforge leads to some fairly slow, grindy, boring games. I play infect in legacy to spice things up and hear people groan when they lose to it. Modern doesn't have invigorate or berserk, so infect there just doesn't seem like it packs the same punch.

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Originally posted by Zeckk:
The 2 cards most likely to come off the ban list by next year are SFM and ancestral vision

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Originally posted by skizzikmonger:
Someone has forgotten how busted Caw-Blade was with SFM tutoring up and playing a Sword or Batterskull by turn 3. SFM won't be unbanned any time soon.

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I don't know about that.

Look at the current top decks.

Eggs doesn't really care about a Batterskull, SoFaF is pretty good against it.

Jund just Thoughtseizes, IoK, or kills the SFM.

Blue Spell Snares.

Kiki-Jiki combo just goes infinite.

Pyromacer's just burns them out.

I think having a blue based control deck would do the format wonders, and SFM is a way to keep it on track.

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Originally posted by Dimh:
I don't know about that.

Look at the current top decks.

Eggs doesn't really care about a Batterskull, SoFaF is pretty good against it.

Jund just Thoughtseizes, IoK, or kills the SFM.

Blue Spell Snares.

Kiki-Jiki combo just goes infinite.

Pyromacer's just burns them out.

I think having a blue based control deck would do the format wonders, and SFM is a way to keep it on track.

The Caw part is not nearly as powerful without Jace, so would more likely be an esper shell for lingering souls.

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A lot of the things you mentioned that disregard SFM, similarly disregard Jace TMS.

Eggs can going to combo out when you tap-out.
Jund has very good cards against Jace TMS.
Pod decks have the CA tools to grind out Jace TMS.
Pyromancer's can combo out on turn 4 also.

I played Modern and Overextended when the formats were brand new; back then, tapping out on turn 4 for Jace TMS meant suicide. At the first Modern Pro Tour, Cloudpost had little shot against the field of combo. Just because it can be out-raced by combo doesn't mean it's okay to be legal. Obviously, WOTC banned some combo cards and then banned Cloudpost.

WOTC just doesn't want those cards (esp Visions) in the format. The banned list isn't about just keeping out worst offenders. They're trying to outline/define a format with Modern (and to be able to reprint cards in a non-rotating format). Tapping out on turn 1 (turn 2 for Bitterblossom) and then sitting back with open mana for the rest of the game and be able to get ahead isn't something WOTC wants.

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Originally posted by choco man:
A lot of the things you mentioned that disregard SFM, similarly disregard Jace TMS.

Eggs can going to combo out when you tap-out.
Jund has very good cards against Jace TMS.
Pod decks have the CA tools to grind out Jace TMS.
Pyromancer's can combo out on turn 4 also.

I played Modern and Overextended when the formats were brand new; back then, tapping out on turn 4 for Jace TMS meant suicide. At the first Modern Pro Tour, Cloudpost had little shot against the field of combo. Just because it can be out-raced by combo doesn't mean it's okay to be legal. Obviously, WOTC banned some combo cards and then banned Cloudpost.

WOTC just doesn't want those cards (esp Visions) in the format. The banned list isn't about just keeping out worst offenders. They're trying to outline/define a format with Modern (and to be able to reprint cards in a non-rotating format). Tapping out on turn 1 (turn 2 for Bitterblossom) and then sitting back with open mana for the rest of the game and be able to get ahead isn't something WOTC wants.

Bc Jace TMS is such a popular card, if the format is completely hostile to it...I could maybe see it being unbanned.

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