I was able to get my case at 635 CND

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Originally posted by eradicate:
wow 150 bucks a box of return to ravnica is high
the store near my home had them at 94 bucks before tax
bought 1 it was like 104 after tax

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Originally posted by Thanos:
FYI, He's talking about Japanese boxes.

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Originally posted by mtglover:
Honestly, I think it's just hype and I hope it would settle down later on when the next set comes out and more people are focused on opening up the next set.

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Originally posted by caquaa:
its just high demand and a short supply right now.... think Zendikar. It'll come back down once a second printing goes out, but the initial printing can only be so large as they have other stuff to print too.

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Originally posted by Bugger:
places are selling out of RtR already? Jeeeesus

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Yes, local stores in my area cannot keep it in stock. Doesn't help that they were not given their full order by the distributors on release day. One store I checked at got 1/3 their order, and had another store calling them to buy a box to cover a pre-order at store #2.

--Evil

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Originally posted by evilempire22:
Yes, local stores in my area cannot keep it in stock. Doesn't help that they were not given their full order by the distributors on release day. One store I checked at got 1/3 their order, and had another store calling them to buy a box to cover a pre-order at store #2.

--Evil

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Originally posted by mtglover:
I'm actually surprised that the box sells so well at a premium considering the fact that the set doesn't have a limited print and will eventually drop in price.

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Like any other set, everybody wants their stuff as soon as possible. Once that initial purchase happens, most everybody's appetite is gone. Just so happens that everybody wants tons of this set.

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Originally posted by choco man:
States happens week after the release of the 1st set of the new block. If there was a tournament like States immediately after the release of every set, it'd be like this for every set.

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Originally posted by Zeckk:
The joke is that states is a terrible tournament now. Has anyone even read the prize payout? I would sooner play a GPT.

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Ppl play in tournaments no matter what the EV is. States is a very visible tournament and States decklists are something that people look at.

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Originally posted by choco man:
Ppl play in tournaments no matter what the EV is. States is a very visible tournament and States decklists are something that people look at.

If ppl played only due to EV, very few should even bother playing anything period. On any given Friday, how many people at the LGS can realistically even win FNM?

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Not to mention most FNM's probably don't pay out very well. Some times people play for the sake of doing so.

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Originally posted by choco man:
Ppl play in tournaments no matter what the EV is. States is a very visible tournament and States decklists are something that people look at.

If ppl played only due to EV, very few should even bother playing anything period. On any given Friday, how many people at the LGS can realistically even win FNM?

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Originally posted by Zeckk:
States USED to be a visible tourney. Now that winning means exactly nothing in terms of qualifying for nationals, all that's left is prize support and "pride", which is hilarious given tendency of magic players to keep their hobby... understated. And the prize support is ridiculously awful. $25 buy-in, and the winner only gets a box? No wonder WOTC took PTQs away from regional TOs...

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Originally posted by Zeckk:
States USED to be a visible tourney. Now that winning means exactly nothing in terms of qualifying for nationals, all that's left is prize support and "pride", which is hilarious given tendency of magic players to keep their hobby... understated. And the prize support is ridiculously awful. $25 buy-in, and the winner only gets a box? No wonder WOTC took PTQs away from regional TOs...

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Other than the on-going trend in 5k's (which every mtg should be grateful for), States is the first tournament outside the LGS that many players go to after the RtR release.

That's why people post on sales forum asking for cards right away or why sellers like MAB_Rapper ask "Ready for States?"

The prize support is awful because the tournament is visible and people show up. $25 and Box for top 8 would be an awesome prize for a tournament if no one showed up. I mean, at a pre-release you pay ~$25 and get a box only if you win.

People don't care about the up-tick in the price of cards around this time of year...every year...because they are in a rush to get the cards (States is a legitimate reason for this, awful EV or not). This is moreso than during the release of the other sets. RtR is the only set that is kicking 3 other sets out of standard. RtR is also the only set coinciding with States 2012. Pro Tours also coincide with release of sets, but most people aren't playing the Pro Tour.

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Originally posted by skizzikmonger:
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Originally posted by Zeckk:
...and winning states qualified you for regionals. The point still stands - states is a shadow of it's former self, and there are plenty of people here in vegas that are simply going to skip states. It's just not worth the scramble for cards, especially with the shorted supply of RTR right now.

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Originally posted by Zeckk:
States USED to be a visible tourney. Now that winning means exactly nothing in terms of qualifying for nationals, all that's left is prize support and "pride", which is hilarious given tendency of magic players to keep their hobby... understated. And the prize support is ridiculously awful. $25 buy-in, and the winner only gets a box? No wonder WOTC took PTQs away from regional TOs...

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