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Topic: Xiahou dun banned in commander?
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bawitheba
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posted November 30, 2011 01:36 AM
        
Ok we all know how powerful xiahou dun the one eyed is. My question is since he has been reprinted in a judge foil there will be more available. Do you think he is ban worthy as a general in edh. I really think only his rarity has kept he from the ban stick. Let me know what you think?
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SolonJhee
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posted November 30, 2011 03:17 AM
Well if they ban my general once again I know I will be done with my mono black 1v1 EDH. They banned Braids on me so I built Xiahou-Dun. Banning him would make me pretty upset. I doubt they will because he doesn't come down on T-2 as a 'must deal with' like Braids/Rofellos and it is a slow grind to get out the infinite mana cards (that an opponent can easily disrupt with as little as a Disenchant).
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caquaa
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posted November 30, 2011 04:55 AM
It doesn't matter. Rofellos and braids shouldn't even be banned at this point. If people want to play cards that aren't fun, there are an insane number out there. EDH should self regulate. If people you play with can't control themselves, then instead of having an arms race, find something more interesting to do. Pauper EDH, etc.At least hes mono color and doesn't get all the tools, just most of them. I think he can be an interesting general if people actually try. edit: He was also easily available before. If you wanted him, it wasn't that hard to get.
[Edited 1 times, lastly by caquaa on November 30, 2011]
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mm1983
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posted November 30, 2011 05:09 AM
Is Braids completely banned from EDH or just as a General? I was thinking of playing him in a Black/White EDH deck.
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caquaa
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posted November 30, 2011 05:13 AM
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Originally posted by mm1983:
Is Braids completely banned from EDH or just as a General? I was thinking of playing him in a Black/White EDH deck.
http://mtgcommander.net/rules.php click on "deck construction"
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Tha Gunslinga
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posted November 30, 2011 08:35 AM
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Originally posted by bawitheba:
Ok we all know how powerful xiahou dun the one eyed is. My question is since he has been reprinted in a judge foil there will be more available. Do you think he is ban worthy as a general in edh. I really think only his rarity has kept he from the ban stick. Let me know what you think?
I sincerely doubt it. I haven't seen people really complaining about the card, and I personally have never played against it. __________________
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WeedIan
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posted November 30, 2011 09:00 AM
I don't get it, he's pretty terrible as a general.a 3/2 quasi unblockable for 2BB seems meh. What makes him so broken? Omnath seems a bit more broken then this guy. Am i missing something?
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iccarus
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posted November 30, 2011 09:39 AM
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Originally posted by WeedIan:
I don't get it, he's pretty terrible as a general.a 3/2 quasi unblockable for 2BB seems meh. What makes him so broken? Omnath seems a bit more broken then this guy. Am i missing something?
Regrowth on a stick can be really good, especially if you combine it with a reanimate effect like Corpse Dance that can be used to get around the extra cost from the command zone. Add in some form of infinte mana engine and black's access to the best tutors, and you get a pretty potent combination. That said, he does not have the early impact on the game generals like Rofellos and Braids did. They could often make the game pointless to continue after turn two. __________________
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choco man
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posted November 30, 2011 11:25 AM
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Originally posted by iccarus:
Regrowth on a stick can be really good, especially if you combine it with a reanimate effect like Corpse Dance that can be used to get around the extra cost from the command zone. Add in some form of infinte mana engine and black's access to the best tutors, and you get a pretty potent combination.That said, he does not have the early impact on the game generals like Rofellos and Braids did. They could often make the game pointless to continue after turn two.
He's an expensive regrowth effect. He's basically a not as easily abused Eternal Witness. But he's legendary so he can be used as a general. If you're going to play cutthroat 1v1, he's about a mana more than some of the other hyper-competitive decks. If you're going to play cutthroat multiplayer, there's plenty of tools to stop him. If you're playing for fun, he's just a neat effect for black decks.
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Loathing
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posted November 30, 2011 12:52 PM
Admittedly I don't really play EDH, but in 1v1 it seems like Vendilion Clique would be by far the best general, right?
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AlmostGrown
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posted November 30, 2011 12:59 PM
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Originally posted by Loathing:
Admittedly I don't really play EDH, but in 1v1 it seems like Vendilion Clique would be by far the best general, right?
VClique and Tunnel Vision was my first 1v1 EDH deck. Good times, good times...
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caquaa
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posted November 30, 2011 01:19 PM
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Originally posted by WeedIan:
Am i missing something?
he has other text? heh corpse dance + songs of the damned + general ... infi mana!
you can do dumb stuff if you try. I think I'd rather just have one in a deck than as a general.
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Zakman86
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posted November 30, 2011 01:48 PM
Xiahou Dun's not getting banned, he's not even close to broken.In other news, the grass is green, the sky is blue and the beer's in the refridgerator.
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WeedIan
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posted November 30, 2011 02:15 PM
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Originally posted by caquaa:
he has other text? hehcorpse dance + songs of the damned + general ... infi mana!
you can do dumb stuff if you try. I think I'd rather just have one in a deck than as a general.
Ya and i can use Rooftop storm + Hakkon for infinite combos too infi mana isn't that big of deal. __________________
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simbayu
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posted December 02, 2011 04:25 PM
Hes not overpowered. I doubt he'll get banned.
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