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CoupDeGrace
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posted December 14, 2011 10:37 AM   Click Here to See the Profile for CoupDeGrace Click Here to Email CoupDeGrace Send a private message to CoupDeGrace Click to send CoupDeGrace an Instant Message Edit/Delete Message Reply With Quote 
As above, claiming that he is broke and selling 2 beta Power Set for $2,000 O_O ?
 
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I did...lol.
 
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I was just coming to MD to post this, myself. I have 2 emails from him. I haven't read them yet, as I'm on my Blackberry. What's going on with these? Are they needed by anyone here for evidence or anything? Should I post them?

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i!  I have a huge collection of mtg cards for sale.  I will sell these to you really cheap.  Just don't tell anyone on MOTL (magictraders.com) about this.

(I accept Paypal)

I have 2 beta power nine sets, 10,000 mtg rares (no uncommons and commons) and I really need $2,000 for everything.  I live in Auburn, Washington United States and pickup is available.  The 2 beta power nine sets include the 2 beta black lotus cards, in mint condition.  I have actually two of them.  I would just like $2,000 for everything just mentioned.  Please do not tell anyone on MOTL about this.  Please do not report this email.  Thanks!

i!  I have a huge collection of mtg cards for sale.  I will sell these to you really cheap.  Just don't tell anyone on MOTL (magictraders.com) about this.

(I accept Paypal)

I have 2 beta power nine sets, 10,000 mtg rares (no uncommons and commons) and I really need $2,000 for everything.  I live in Auburn, Washington United States and pickup is available.  The 2 beta power nine sets include the 2 beta black lotus cards, in mint condition.  I have actually two of them.  I would just like $2,000 for everything just mentioned.  Please do not tell anyone on MOTL about this.  Please do not report this email.  Thanks!

(I can be reached at: 850-559-7194 text or call me)

(I can be reached at: 850-559-7194 text or call me)

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[Edited 2 times, lastly by MeddlingMage on December 14, 2011]

 
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I got both of them as well.
 
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Crap! I wasn't supposed to tell anybody! Hope this doesn't ruin my chances!

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posted December 14, 2011 10:54 AM   Click Here to See the Profile for Thanos Click Here to Email Thanos Send a private message to Thanos Click to send Thanos an Instant Message Edit/Delete Message Reply With Quote 
They're not from the actual Daniel Chang ( Graded Magic Cards).

That should be made clear.

 
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Normally I never receive this crap, but I did thi time...

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Both e-mail went straight to the bin.

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posted December 14, 2011 11:37 AM   Click Here to See the Profile for Thanos Click Here to Email Thanos Send a private message to Thanos Click to send Thanos an Instant Message Edit/Delete Message Reply With Quote 
This is the same person that tried to sell the Beta Box awhile back in Florida (Florida number in the email).

The real Daniel Chang has stated:

quote:
Originally by Daniel Chang:


If you can, please comment and let everyone know to contact me directly if they really have an issue. Also, state that it is a fraud.




 
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I love that it says don't tell anyone on here. That's the best part about it all.

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That phone number is listed to Tallahassee, FL. I bet it's our favorite scammer again...

I'm just disappointed I didn't get it.

 
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quote:
Originally posted by Thanos:
This is the same person that tried to sell the Beta Box awhile back in Florida (Florida number in the email).

The real Daniel Chang has stated:


So, you've been in contact with Daniel Chang and told him what was going on? Just want to know because I was planning on emailing him myself.

Thanks,
Jazaray

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quote:
Originally posted by Jazaray:
So, you've been in contact with Daniel Chang and told him what was going on? Just want to know because I was planning on emailing him myself.

Thanks,
Jazaray


Yes, Daniel is aware of the situation.

He also asked me to post this:

Dear MOTL members,

Please disregard any postings from the fraudulent member online.  We signed up for an account trying to respond to postings, but apparently there is a hacker or bot either producing fraudulent emails internally or externally.

If you have any questions, contact me at: daniel@gradedmagiccards.com

Thank you,

Daniel Chang

www.gradedmagiccards.com
 
Sincerely,

Daniel Chang
President and CEO
GMTG: Graded Magic Cards, LLC


[Edited 1 times, lastly by Thanos on December 14, 2011]

 
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I got an email from him about a month ago, blocked him, and promptly reported it as (we all obviously know) spam!
 
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I wonder what exactly he was planning to do if someone went out to Washington to meet in a public place?
 
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quote:
Originally posted by Jazaray:
So, you've been in contact with Daniel Chang and told him what was going on? Just want to know because I was planning on emailing him myself.

Thanks,
Jazaray


I didn't see it on my calender it must be help out a RIPPER DAY! Maybe it's just because he didn't actually rip anyone while using this site. Why anyone would help out a confirmed ripper is beyond me.

Maybe you forgot this, or maybe not, or it just doesn't matter?
http://classic.magictraders.com/ubb/Forum1/HTML/025202.html

I understand that others don't mind dealing with degenerate thieves because they want something and it obviously doesn't matter what type of person it is as long as they have what it is they need.

 
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I'm fairly sure that in the above cases it was a scammer who stole his (internet) identity and tried to use it.
 
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Except this was an ebay auction in that linked thread above. Presumably they were using the "contact seller" button on eBay, so unless his eBay account itself was entirely hacked, it was presumably actually him that farsk8 was dealing with no?
 
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quote:
Originally posted by AlmostGrown:
I'm fairly sure that in the above cases it was a scammer who stole his (internet) identity and tried to use it.

No, the eBay case was the real person.

Motl has no control over what happens on eBay, but if someone is farming the emails here and impersonating someone, everyone has a right to know, including the person being impersonated.

I was ripped off by Channelfireball, but through eBay, not this site.

They still deal here.

I've sent Daniel Chang literally thousands of dollars worth of cards and aside from expected delays, I've really had no problems.

I'm not condoning what happened in the other case, I just wanted to get the facts out there over these emails.

 
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quote:
Originally posted by farsk8dutch:
I didn't see it on my calender it must be help out a RIPPER DAY! Maybe it's just because he didn't actually rip anyone while using this site. Why anyone would help out a confirmed ripper is beyond me.

Maybe you forgot this, or maybe not, or it just doesn't matter?
http://classic.magictraders.com/ubb/Forum1/HTML/025202.html

I understand that others don't mind dealing with degenerate thieves because they want something and it obviously doesn't matter what type of person it is as long as they have what it is they need.


Of course I haven't forgotten, and yes, it matters to me. What happened to you was quite awful and I would never deal with gradedmagiccards myself because of it. But "help out a Ripper Day?" Really? NOT informing Daniel Change would be "helping out a ripper". Danny Cheung has used these types of emails and scams many, many times on our MOTLers. We need to inform the community at large about this, and letting Daniel Chang know so that he can inform others is the right thing to do here.

Thanks,
Jazaray

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quote:
I didn't see it on my calender it must be help out a RIPPER DAY! Maybe it's just because he didn't actually rip anyone while using this site. Why anyone would help out a confirmed ripper is beyond me.

Did you miss the part where it's not actually Chang that's scamming these people, but an IMPERSONATOR? So apparently we should continue letting this guy impersonate Daniel Chang just because you have an issue with him? Did you forget about all of the potential victims of this scam, or is it just that having other innocent people scammed is perfectly worthwhile as long as you get to see Chang's reputation damaged?

Sure, Chang's probably more worried about protecting his own name (as I would be), but getting this information out to the community, including through him (who can help reach a large part of the Magic community), helps the community protect themselves from being scammed by the impersonator. And that is MUCH more important than your individual, personal issue against him, no matter how valid it may be.

[Edited 1 times, lastly by Bagbokk on December 15, 2011]

 
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I didn't receive the emails. Pity. But I am confused about something. Is this a ripper impersonating a ripper? That makes alot of sense, NOT! that's like christians against christ.

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I didn't receive the emails. Pity. But I am confused about something. Is this a ripper impersonating a ripper? That makes alot of sense, NOT! that's like christians against christ.

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Sweet! I got yet another set of the emails. Apparently he's not even smart enough to filter out the mods.

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quote:
Originally posted by nderdog:
Sweet! I got yet another set of the emails. Apparently he's not even smart enough to filter out the mods.


Same here.

 

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